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11-06-2009, 03:57 PM
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Punch Power: 456 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... +1167 i bet if he shaves off all that hair, Valuev would weigh in at about 275 lbs 
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11-06-2009, 04:19 PM
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Punch Power: 1175 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu . I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though. | To look at him: probably not an impressive amount, and if compared to his body weight probably nothing terms of relative strength.
He's big, knows how to use it and can spoil... but athletically speaking he's pretty useless.
Size, not strength is his only stand out asset.
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11-06-2009, 04:27 PM
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Punch Power: 2413 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Simasu . I can't imagine he does much running. I'd love to find out how much Valuev can bench press though. | To look at him: probably not an impressive amount, and if compared to his body weight probably nothing terms of relative strength.
He's big, knows how to use it and can spoil... but athletically speaking he's pretty useless.
Size, not strength is his only stand out asset. |
Saw this reply to the same question on another forum that made me laugh He's probably not pound for pound strong. But he's strong in absolute terms.
An a beetle can lift 50 times it's body weight, but a horse can only lift about half it's own weight. Still, if they fought, my money is on the horse.
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11-06-2009, 04:33 PM
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Punch Power: 1175 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... What if it's a venomous beetle or a beetle carrying some form of deadly parasite/virus and the horse hasn't had it's sugar lumps? | 
11-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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Punch Power: 1175 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... +578 Blister beetle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "The blister beetle genus Epicauta is highly toxic to horses . A few beetles consumed in a single feeding of alfalfa hay may be lethal. Poisonings have also been reported after use of "Spanish fly"-type folk medicines, and after handling blister beetle individuals. The toxic chemical is cantharidin."
And Valuev isn't no Stallion either
But yeah, the point is that Valuev isn't athletic, but that won't be the deciding factor in this fight. The deciding factor will be whether he can employ the right tactics and use his size to negate haye's work... not how much the hair blubber bag can bench press. | 
11-06-2009, 05:32 PM
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Punch Power: 0 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... This could be an good fight, if your blind!! Nikolay Valuev is one of the worst if not the worst fighter who has an "ABC" belt!! Who has he fought and actually won  , Oh yea No One!!! He Lost to Evander Holyfield but because they were in Germany and that horrible Italian Judge Pierluigi Poppi if he is one of the judges during this fight watch out for a great decision!! Seriously I don't know how anyone can say this is even an average fighter he is terrible, man friggen Manny Pacquiao could beat him!! I can't stand Haye mouth but he should KO the Yeti through the ring!! | 
11-06-2009, 06:15 PM
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Punch Power: 951 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... If Haye doesn't KO Valuev he loses. He can put him down once per round and still lose. I want Haye to win, but I don't think it'll happen.
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11-06-2009, 06:32 PM
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Punch Power: 1265 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitalifan4life This could be an good fight, if your blind!! Nikolay Valuev is one of the worst if not the worst fighter who has an "ABC" belt!! Who has he fought and actually won  , Oh yea No One!!! He Lost to Evander Holyfield but because they were in Germany and that horrible Italian Judge Pierluigi Poppi if he is one of the judges during this fight watch out for a great decision!! Seriously I don't know how anyone can say this is even an average fighter he is terrible, man friggen Manny Pacquiao could beat him!! I can't stand Haye mouth but he should KO the Yeti through the ring!! | Actually the fight was in Switzerland...
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11-06-2009, 06:43 PM
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Punch Power: 1892 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Didn't Haye say his goal for fighting weight at heavyweight was 230-240?? 216...that's seriously light!!! Anyone worried about this
Valuev probably can't bench very much because his arms are long, it's harder to bench press a lot of weight when you're pushing it farther.
I want to see Haye cope with the shots Valuev will land on the back/near the back of David's head. I also want to see how Valuev handles Haye's punches.
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11-06-2009, 06:49 PM
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Punch Power: 1687 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle Didn't Haye say his goal for fighting weight at heavyweight was 230-240?? 216...that's seriously light!!! Anyone worried about this
Valuev probably can't bench very much because his arms are long, it's harder to bench press a lot of weight when you're pushing it farther.
I want to see Haye cope with the shots Valuev will land on the back/near the back of David's head. I also want to see how Valuev handles Haye's punches. | No, are you?
He ain't a big heavy, it's that simple to me. I reckon it's his best fighting weight looking at him. Valuev is quite a task when your THAT small in comparison, it's like me fighting a 19 stone fella. Fuck that shit.
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11-06-2009, 06:52 PM
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Punch Power: 585 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle Didn't Haye say his goal for fighting weight at heavyweight was 230-240?? 216...that's seriously light!!! Anyone worried about this
Valuev probably can't bench very much because his arms are long, it's harder to bench press a lot of weight when you're pushing it farther.
I want to see Haye cope with the shots Valuev will land on the back/near the back of David's head. I also want to see how Valuev handles Haye's punches. | Never heard Haye say that. 216 is similar to what Tyson and Holyfield used to weigh in their primes and i'd put everything I own on a "Prime Tyson" or Holyfield beating any of the Heavys around now! | 
11-06-2009, 06:57 PM
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Punch Power: 1892 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Yes "Prime Tyson" and Evander Holyfield all throughout his career were down in the 210's, but you see those guys had solid chins and good defense....David Haye has neither......so I ask again, is anyone worried about this?
I mean RJJ fought the 230 pound John Ruiz when Roy weighed in at like 197, but Roy was quick, he had a HUGE ring, and Roy put punches together and got the hell out of dodge. David Haye can't do that vs Valuev either, because even in a huge ring like Roy had Valuev is so big, cutting the ring off ain't an issue. | 
11-06-2009, 07:41 PM
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Punch Power: 585 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle Yes "Prime Tyson" and Evander Holyfield all throughout his career were down in the 210's, but you see those guys had solid chins and good defense....David Haye has neither......so I ask again, is anyone worried about this?
I mean RJJ fought the 230 pound John Ruiz when Roy weighed in at like 197, but Roy was quick, he had a HUGE ring, and Roy put punches together and got the hell out of dodge. David Haye can't do that vs Valuev either, because even in a huge ring like Roy had Valuev is so big, cutting the ring off ain't an issue. | Fancy a sig bet on the fight then? | 
11-06-2009, 07:47 PM
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Punch Power: 1892 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... I'm only making a sig bet when Haye fights Wladimir or Vitali. | 
11-06-2009, 07:52 PM
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Punch Power: 1687 | | Re: Valuev & Haye just weighed in... Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle I'm only making a sig bet when Haye fights Wladimir or Vitali. | Who do you beat your meat to most often? Wlad or Vitali? | |
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