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11-14-2009, 04:43 AM
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Punch Power: 1320 | | I HATE when people say this.... +1800 "If you think that fighter will in, then that just shows how little you know about boxing"
I've heard it a BILLION times, and it is so f'n ridiculous..
I was just looking for where to get Pac/Cotto 24/7, and there are people saying Cotto will win, then another guy is like "If you think Cotto will win, then that shows how little you know about boxing"...
The same was said the other way in a different section "If you honestly think Pac can beat Cotto, you obviously know nothing about boxing"
It is THE SINGLE stupidist f'n thing to say ever... It only proves how little the person SAYING this actually knows about boxing...
It completely disregards the fact their are 1000's upon 1000's of fights in boxing history where a clear favourite did not win.. And it disregards the fact that people who have been involved in boxing for 50 years can't even pick for certain who will win...
F'n so angry having to read it.. Everyone seems to think they are a boxing expert because they watch a couple of fights more than the general public, then assume they know everything and if anyone thinks something different to them, they are obviously just these "moron general public people who have no idea"...
These f'n douches need to grow up and realise the more you know about f'n boxing, the more you realise anything can happen...
Anyone who is 100% certain like that and is prepared to call someone a f'n idiot for picking the other fighter, is a f'n idiot themselves..
I think the point is, the longer you are in boxing, the more fights you have tried to pick based on logic, intuition, feeling, knowledge, heart,,,,, and the more times you have been wrong and realised anything can happen and logic doesn't always predict fight. intuition doesn't always predict fights.. Knowledge or fighter history doesn't always predict fights...
OF COURSE though their are some fights and fighters where you are just sure... I was sure Mayweather would beat Marquez and would have literally been completely SHOCKED if he won... That's as far as i'd go but would not say someone knows nothing about boxing for saying Marquez would win... I would just asume they have looked at Marquez strengths and Mayweathers plan, and just tried to work that together into a Marquez win.. And you can picture it that way... It might be a bit hopeful, but does not make you a f'n idiot, or a boxing ignoramous....
Anyway, that's my rant done...
Think i'm just a bit wound up with pre fight tension... only about 21 hours away now!!
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11-14-2009, 04:50 AM
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Punch Power: 3294 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... Sir, that is one hell of a diatribe. I commend you.
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11-14-2009, 04:51 AM
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Punch Power: 1625 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... +450 Agreed, I also hate it when people act like they know as much as I do | 
11-14-2009, 05:14 AM
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11-14-2009, 05:21 AM
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11-14-2009, 05:25 AM
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Punch Power: 2063 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... Yeah, those types of arguments are incredibly stupid and very childish. It shows a very narrow way of approaching a fight. All that "I'm picking fighter A and anyone who disagrees with me doesn't know anything" type thinking is total pap. A serious case of blinkered vision going on. Boxing is one of those sports where underdogs are able to turn the tables and do indeed beat the odds. We all get it wrong sometimes and there is no shame in that. All in all boxing "know it alls" are a sad bunch.
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11-14-2009, 07:31 AM
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Punch Power: 1040 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise If you think Pacquiao will win then your a fukking idiot | I've always thought those people who put c's in f***ing are retards, and if you think there should be a c in that word then that shows how little you know about boxing words and stuff.
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11-14-2009, 09:50 AM
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Punch Power: 573 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... sooooo annoying
the fact of the matter is that in this game even the lamest of fighters have a punchers chance
In football if man utd are playing histon town, histon really do have no chance. Same applys with all team sports where the odds are so great
but with boxing..its all about who turns up on the night and performs!!
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11-14-2009, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer sooooo annoying
the fact of the matter is that in this game even the lamest of fighters have a punchers chance
In football if man utd are playing histon town, histon really do have no chance. Same applys with all team sports where the odds are so great
but with boxing..its all about who turns up on the night and performs!! | there is no such thing as 'no chance' in any sport .... sticking to your analogy i do remember southend knocking man utd out of the fa cup about 3-4 years ago
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11-14-2009, 11:07 AM
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Punch Power: 311 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... If someone really believes it is that much of a sure thing than they should bet the house on it....If someone ever says that to you tell them they should put their money where there mouth is and I am not talking about you betting them $20....Tell them you will drive them to the casino and you expect them to bet everything they have on their fighter....See what they say than....
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11-14-2009, 12:45 PM
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Punch Power: 1529 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Dizaster "If you think that fighter will in, then that just shows how little you know about boxing"
I've heard it a BILLION times, and it is so f'n ridiculous..
I was just looking for where to get Pac/Cotto 24/7, and there are people saying Cotto will win, then another guy is like "If you think Cotto will win, then that shows how little you know about boxing"...
The same was said the other way in a different section "If you honestly think Pac can beat Cotto, you obviously know nothing about boxing"
It is THE SINGLE stupidist f'n thing to say ever... It only proves how little the person SAYING this actually knows about boxing...
It completely disregards the fact their are 1000's upon 1000's of fights in boxing history where a clear favourite did not win.. And it disregards the fact that people who have been involved in boxing for 50 years can't even pick for certain who will win...
F'n so angry having to read it.. Everyone seems to think they are a boxing expert because they watch a couple of fights more than the general public, then assume they know everything and if anyone thinks something different to them, they are obviously just these "moron general public people who have no idea"...
These f'n douches need to grow up and realise the more you know about f'n boxing, the more you realise anything can happen...
Anyone who is 100% certain like that and is prepared to call someone a f'n idiot for picking the other fighter, is a f'n idiot themselves..
I think the point is, the longer you are in boxing, the more fights you have tried to pick based on logic, intuition, feeling, knowledge, heart,,,,, and the more times you have been wrong and realised anything can happen and logic doesn't always predict fight. intuition doesn't always predict fights.. Knowledge or fighter history doesn't always predict fights...
OF COURSE though their are some fights and fighters where you are just sure... I was sure Mayweather would beat Marquez and would have literally been completely SHOCKED if he won... That's as far as i'd go but would not say someone knows nothing about boxing for saying Marquez would win... I would just asume they have looked at Marquez strengths and Mayweathers plan, and just tried to work that together into a Marquez win.. And you can picture it that way... It might be a bit hopeful, but does not make you a f'n idiot, or a boxing ignoramous....
Anyway, that's my rant done...
Think i'm just a bit wound up with pre fight tension... only about 21 hours away now!! | HOLY CRAP! It's only a mere hours away! Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise If you think Pacquiao will win then your a fukking idiot | Saw that one coming! | 
11-14-2009, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer sooooo annoying
the fact of the matter is that in this game even the lamest of fighters have a punchers chance
In football if man utd are playing histon town, histon really do have no chance. Same applys with all team sports where the odds are so great
but with boxing..its all about who turns up on the night and performs!! | there is no such thing as 'no chance' in any sport .... sticking to your analogy i do remember southend knocking man utd out of the fa cup about 3-4 years ago |
That was the league cup mate not the fa cup and Soutend were at home playing Uniteds third team, Southend were in the third tier of football. Histon arnt even a pro club big big difference.
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11-14-2009, 02:02 PM
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Punch Power: 1892 | | Re: I HATE when people say this.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Dizaster "If you think that fighter will in, then that just shows how little you know about boxing"
I've heard it a BILLION times, and it is so f'n ridiculous..
I was just looking for where to get Pac/Cotto 24/7, and there are people saying Cotto will win, then another guy is like "If you think Cotto will win, then that shows how little you know about boxing"...
The same was said the other way in a different section "If you honestly think Pac can beat Cotto, you obviously know nothing about boxing"
It is THE SINGLE stupidist f'n thing to say ever... It only proves how little the person SAYING this actually knows about boxing...
It completely disregards the fact their are 1000's upon 1000's of fights in boxing history where a clear favourite did not win.. And it disregards the fact that people who have been involved in boxing for 50 years can't even pick for certain who will win...
F'n so angry having to read it.. Everyone seems to think they are a boxing expert because they watch a couple of fights more than the general public, then assume they know everything and if anyone thinks something different to them, they are obviously just these "moron general public people who have no idea"...
These f'n douches need to grow up and realise the more you know about f'n boxing, the more you realise anything can happen...
Anyone who is 100% certain like that and is prepared to call someone a f'n idiot for picking the other fighter, is a f'n idiot themselves..
I think the point is, the longer you are in boxing, the more fights you have tried to pick based on logic, intuition, feeling, knowledge, heart,,,,, and the more times you have been wrong and realised anything can happen and logic doesn't always predict fight. intuition doesn't always predict fights.. Knowledge or fighter history doesn't always predict fights...
OF COURSE though their are some fights and fighters where you are just sure... I was sure Mayweather would beat Marquez and would have literally been completely SHOCKED if he won... That's as far as i'd go but would not say someone knows nothing about boxing for saying Marquez would win... I would just asume they have looked at Marquez strengths and Mayweathers plan, and just tried to work that together into a Marquez win.. And you can picture it that way... It might be a bit hopeful, but does not make you a f'n idiot, or a boxing ignoramous....
Anyway, that's my rant done...
Think i'm just a bit wound up with pre fight tension... only about 21 hours away now!! | .....well that just shows how little you actually know about boxing 
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11-14-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by skel1983 Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer sooooo annoying
the fact of the matter is that in this game even the lamest of fighters have a punchers chance
In football if man utd are playing histon town, histon really do have no chance. Same applys with all team sports where the odds are so great
but with boxing..its all about who turns up on the night and performs!! | there is no such thing as 'no chance' in any sport .... sticking to your analogy i do remember southend knocking man utd out of the fa cup about 3-4 years ago |
That was the league cup mate not the fa cup and Soutend were at home playing Uniteds third team, Southend were in the third tier of football. Histon arnt even a pro club big big difference. | still is a big upset, my point is time and time again it is proved that the term 'no chance' means nothing
buster douglas over mike tyson
senegal over france - 2002 world cup
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