Thread: James Toney signs multi fight deal with the UFC

Originally Posted by eagle

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by skel1983

Now that would be a huge sell!!

i'd pay just to see the press conferences lol it'd be hilarious

As Kimbo is mainly a stand up fighter too it would have to give 'Lights Out' a better chance. As long as he is matched up against all stand up guys he'd be ok.

Actually Kimbo has grown into an MMA fighter and vastly improved his game...He is not the same fighter from the TUF series or even the one that faced Alexander....He really has developed nicely...Not the best but not the worst either....

As for the pressers Kimbo is really not a big shit talker...In truth he is a humble guy who is great to talk to and very respectful...Believe it or not he is an intelligent guy as well...I met him at ATT in Coconut Creek last year top caliber fellow

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Originally Posted by eagle

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i'd pay just to see the press conferences lol it'd be hilarious

As Kimbo is mainly a stand up fighter too it would have to give 'Lights Out' a better chance. As long as he is matched up against all stand up guys he'd be ok.

Actually Kimbo has grown into an MMA fighter and vastly improved his game...He is not the same fighter from the TUF series or even the one that faced Alexander....He really has developed nicely...Not the best but not the worst either....

As for the pressers Kimbo is really not a big shit talker...In truth he is a humble guy who is great to talk to and very respectful...Believe it or not he is an intelligent guy as well...I met him at ATT in Coconut Creek last year top caliber fellow

oh i don't doubt it, but Toney will go off on the guy lol

Walker is in his 40's and has had multiple martial arts black belts, but Dana says that that guy is a joke. Then signs this 40-something former pro to make an MMA debut?

and furthermore......

Personally I’m more intrigued to see Ricardo Mayorga in Shine against Din Thomas.

Mayorga is closer to his prime, and he is stepping in against a legit badass in his first fight. Toney is sure to get a hand picked tomato can similar to Herschel Walker’s.

Originally Posted by SandyWH

Walker is in his 40's and has had multiple martial arts black belts, but Dana says that that guy is a joke. Then signs this 40-something former pro to make an MMA debut?

and furthermore......

Personally I’m more intrigued to see Ricardo Mayorga in Shine against Din Thomas.

Mayorga is closer to his prime, and he is stepping in against a legit badass in his first fight. Toney is sure to get a hand picked tomato can similar to Herschel Walker’s.

Mayorga against Thomas is great, I'm wondering who Toney will fight.
I think Couture said he wanted Toney.

I'll tell you exactly how this will go. Toney will be submitted extremely quickly and then in the post fight interview go off on his opponent for being a p#ssy for not standing and fighting.

I'm actually quite intrigued to see how Toney performs in this. I listened to a really interesting interview with, I think his Step Father of about 15 - 16 years. He was a mixed martial arts expert for years fighting in all kinds off rough places. The link is below. I think James Toney might be a little better equipped for UFC than people are giving him credit for......

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If ANYONE makes the mistake of trying to punch Toney in that gay MMA way then it will be a repeat of what Mercer did to Sylvia. They will be KO'd instantly only this time it will be a counter punch that does it. I know Toney isn't the biggest puncher but he has ok power.

On the other hand if they charge at him for a takedown, Toney does not have good footspeed anymore and will not be able to avoid that IMO and once on the floor he will be in trouble IMO.

This for me is Dana trying to prove a point but he knows he's picking an out of shape old has been middleweight because some bums from boxing in the past have crossed to MMA and done quite well. You have Butterbean for example he got easily outclassed by a 50 odd year old ex champion and then went to MMA and has beaten some decent names, the guy only ever fought one fight in boxing outside of 4 rounders for fuck sake. I once heard a MMA commentator say "there is a lot of talk of Floyd Mayweather coming into MMA, but we already have one top boxer here in Butterbean" WTF??

Then there is Lytle and Davis who are both ex bums in boxing who realised they weren't good enough so went into MMA, I know they are not the best in the UFC but to get into the UFC you have to be half decent at MMA. And then of course Mercer at 48 KO'd 33 year old ex 3 time UFC HW champion in 8 seconds, I know that one hurts MMA fans the most, now i'm not saying Mercer or Sylvia for that matter are great but he showed what an old, fat, out of shape boxer is capable of in MMA!!

complete joke

james toney is too fat and dumpy to get around a boxing ring nowadays how the hell is he gonna survive in an MMA one.

You could put him in with the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time and the story is pretty simple. If the heavyweight is stupid enough to even attempt at any point to trade toney will bang them out with one punch. Its simple economics a boxer will always be stronger than a wrestler. But the second one of them takes hold of his leg and starts getting gay with toney it`ll just be like watching an xrated version of flipper

This is awful news, I'm very disappointed in Dana.

Apart from Kimbo, I cant think of another Heavyweight or Light-Heavyweight within the UFC that isnt going to take Toney down and beat the shit out of him, put him to sleep or snap his leg or arm. Kimbo would be a joke match-up as well, he's a back-street brawler with limited MMA skills, who favours standing. Toney would murder him, their stand-up skillsets are obviously light years apart.

I really wish they wouldnt mix these two sports. They are both completely different ball games. I have always liked James Toney as a BOXER, as an MMA fighter it's just plain ridiculous. And Toney is completely naive if he thinks just because he has world class hands he can live with these multi-dimentional athletes.

The thing is, Dana has always been a huge boxing fan, I think he has sold out here again in the hope of using Toneys name to lift the name of the UFC. Cheap shot. And I'm a big Dana White fan.

Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force

This is awful news, I'm very disappointed in Dana.

Apart from Kimbo, I cant think of another Heavyweight or Light-Heavyweight within the UFC that isnt going to take Toney down and beat the shit out of him. Kimbo would be a joke match-up as well, he's a back-street brawler with limited MMA skills, who favours standing. Toney would murder him, their stand-up skillsets are obviously light years apart.

I really wish they wouldnt mix these two sports. They are both completely different ball games. I have always liked James Toney as a BOXER, as an MMA fighter it's just plain ridiculous. And Toney is completely naive if he thinks just because he has world class hands he can live with these multi-dimentional athletes.

The thing is, Dana has always been a huge boxing fan, I think he has sold out here again in the hope of using Toneys name to lift the name of the UFC. Cheap shot. And I'm a big Dana White fan.

The day vitali klitschko enters the ring in spandex shorts and starts dry humping his opponent is the very day i call time on watching this sport!!

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Hornfinger

I dunno man, yeah it's easy to say Toney's going to suck, but it all depends on how he trains, who trains him etc etc.

Toney fighting in UFC and doing alright for himself is just as rediculous as saying Mosely has a chance against Floyd.

you never fully know whats going to happen till they get in the ring and do it.

I'm going to reserve judgement....

mayorga...toney

no doubt white will put the spin on this and tell all that boxers are now joining the revolution completely ignoring the fact both guys peaked years ago

once they are inevitably both knocked out white will again claim victory in that it`ll somehow prove how martial arts is the superior sport

That's his plan! Otherwise he'd be trying to get someone with really good wheels who could circle away from all the takedowns and clinches and could fire lighning bolts everytime the opponent comes forward with that gay stance from the outside thus ending with the MMA guy unconcious. But no he'll just go for stand still and roll the shoulders James Toney. White is a tosser who pretends he like boxing, the guy doesn't even know Juan Manuel Marquez's name. How is that a boxing fan??

It kills me when UFC fans state how theyre sport is superior because you can work the legs etc

The sport is essentially full of guys who failed to make it as a boxer hence the reason they do this sport. What the fuck do you think would happen to brock lesnar if he ever got in the ring with a klitschko or if couture fought calzaghe.

Every single UFC fighter of note at some point has dreamed of being a boxer because this is still the millionaire making sport. If you offered mayweather, mosley, pacquiao $70,000 dollars for a fight they`d laugh at you in the face. Ive no probs with dana white trying to compete and lets face it he does a far superior job of promoting UFC than anything boxing can possibly offer.

But this whole mixed martial arts is the superior sport thing has got to stop. Just ask couture, silva etc if theyve ever tried to become a boxer and whether they honestly believe they could go toe to toe with a second or 3rd rate fighter and not get banged out within 20seconds