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    Default Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    All four have their issues, all four rape the sport we love.

    Let's pick them off one at a time and stop recognizing them, where do we start?
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    Kill em all off.

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBO because it is the newest.
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA - Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,500 for the challenger and $3,500 for the champion, or the maxium of $150,000.

    WBO - "Three percent (3%) of their purses with a minimum of $1,000.00 and a maximum of $90,000.00 per boxer."

    WBC - "Three percent (3.0%) of all gross amounts received by the boxers as compensation for a bout... On gross compensation up to US$100,000 a minimum of US$3,000.00 shall be due from the champion, and US$1,000.00 shall be due from the challenger. In the event of a vacant title, a minimum of US$2,000.00 shall be due from each boxer."

    IBF - "Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,000 for the challenger and $1,500 for the champion"

    So lets look at it this way if fighter A has all 4 belts and fighter B is challenging for all four and they decide to pay all of the sanctioning fees....

    Assume a total purse of $5,000,000 for each fighter
    This is what they pay out in fees

    Fighter A (champion) and Fighter B (challenger)
    Each pay...........
    WBA - $150,000
    WBO - $90,000
    WBC - $150,000
    IBF - $150,000

    So total cost in sanctioning fees is $1,080,000 for a $10,000,000 total purse.
    This does not include the belt charge, nor does it include Sanctioning body specific regulations in regards to weigh-ins etc, nor does it include fees for officials like refs and judges.
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    There all terrible, but the WBA has to take the cake as the absolute worst, with three champions (super, regular and interim) per division.

    The WBC is the next worse as they also luvvv to make up new titles. The silver title, the diamond title, and they use interim titles way too often.

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA goes first but sadly enough it was once the best of them all....

    The WBC is nothing but a bunch of pimps and always has been but it is also the most prestigious of them all due to its previous holders and popularity

    WBO while newest it is also the least bullshit involved and picks up popularity every year

    IBF is one that IMO seemed to always have the least nonsense as far as politics go...

    The ring title is the one to have hands down..The only one you can only win in the ring and it takes no money from the fighters...

    I remember when poor Baldomir beat Judah and could only afford to keep one title because he could not afford the fees...I mean WTF is the sense in fighting for a title if it takes money from you?

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    I have to vote for the wba for their amazing work at heavyweight in recent times(nothing to do with haye btw)... although maybe they do deserve some respect for the amount of times they can get john ruiz to be number one contendor.. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him and valuev fighting for that title again..

    And they have the super word title and the world title :S................

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    WBA - Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,500 for the challenger and $3,500 for the champion, or the maxium of $150,000.

    WBO - "Three percent (3%) of their purses with a minimum of $1,000.00 and a maximum of $90,000.00 per boxer."

    WBC - "Three percent (3.0%) of all gross amounts received by the boxers as compensation for a bout... On gross compensation up to US$100,000 a minimum of US$3,000.00 shall be due from the champion, and US$1,000.00 shall be due from the challenger. In the event of a vacant title, a minimum of US$2,000.00 shall be due from each boxer."

    IBF - "Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,000 for the challenger and $1,500 for the champion"

    So lets look at it this way if fighter A has all 4 belts and fighter B is challenging for all four and they decide to pay all of the sanctioning fees....

    Assume a total purse of $5,000,000 for each fighter
    This is what they pay out in fees

    Fighter A (champion) and Fighter B (challenger)
    Each pay...........
    WBA - $150,000
    WBO - $90,000
    WBC - $150,000
    IBF - $150,000

    So total cost in sanctioning fees is $1,080,000 for a $10,000,000 total purse.
    This does not include the belt charge, nor does it include Sanctioning body specific regulations in regards to weigh-ins etc, nor does it include fees for officials like refs and judges.
    Where did you get all this information?(good job by the way)

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA charges the most because it can afford to... If you got rid of it, the WBO would probably increase it's fees by 30%


    I voted WBO because it's the lest worthy...And as Master said, the newest. The word redundancy springs to mind.
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA all the way because of the aberrations of the past 7-8 years, we can resurrect it once Sulaiman passes away.
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    The WBA. When Dmitry Salita at 140 and John Ruiz at HW for many years can become the #1 contender in their weight class fighting for a "world title" then it needs to go. The other ones are pretty bad but the WBA is the worst of the lot. Oh and the 3 champion bullshit is ridiculous too.

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA

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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    WBA - Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,500 for the challenger and $3,500 for the champion, or the maxium of $150,000.

    WBO - "Three percent (3%) of their purses with a minimum of $1,000.00 and a maximum of $90,000.00 per boxer."

    WBC - "Three percent (3.0%) of all gross amounts received by the boxers as compensation for a bout... On gross compensation up to US$100,000 a minimum of US$3,000.00 shall be due from the champion, and US$1,000.00 shall be due from the challenger. In the event of a vacant title, a minimum of US$2,000.00 shall be due from each boxer."

    IBF - "Three percent (3%) of the purse of each boxer with a minimum of $1,000 for the challenger and $1,500 for the champion"

    So lets look at it this way if fighter A has all 4 belts and fighter B is challenging for all four and they decide to pay all of the sanctioning fees....

    Assume a total purse of $5,000,000 for each fighter
    This is what they pay out in fees

    Fighter A (champion) and Fighter B (challenger)
    Each pay...........
    WBA - $150,000
    WBO - $90,000
    WBC - $150,000
    IBF - $150,000

    So total cost in sanctioning fees is $1,080,000 for a $10,000,000 total purse.
    This does not include the belt charge, nor does it include Sanctioning body specific regulations in regards to weigh-ins etc, nor does it include fees for officials like refs and judges.
    Where did you get all this information?(good job by the way)
    From the sanctioning bodies websites.

    I'll try to dig up the links it took a little digging.
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    WBA, coz they take an already corrupt system and really take the piss
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    Default Re: Which of the big 4 alphabets do we dump first?

    All of them.

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