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    Default Team McCloskey reveal (in detail) why fight with Khan is off

    Statement from McCloskey team regarding the 'failed deal' - quite revealing too:

    This is a response to Amir Khan teams statement regarding the failed deal. There have been a lot of stories since this deal broke down which have not been accurate coming from the Khan camp. Out of respect for Pauls fans and the general boxing public I feel I must state the facts publicly.

    I Francie McNicholl Paul McCloskey’s manager would like to set the record straight and let the public decide the truth from fiction. It was Paul’s decision alone to not accept the offer. After initial contact had been made with the Khan team we all agreed the contest could happen subject to conditions being agreed.

    The Khan team sent an e mail to Matchroom with an offer of a cash amount that Paul would get paid for the fight. It also said they would require options on Paul’s next three fights should he win the contest. The cash amount offered was way below what one would expect for an unbeaten European champion in a world title fight. Barry Hearn contacted Khans team asking for two and a half times this offer, which was rejected. Khans team were then sent an email stating the amount that Paul received for his last European fight. Contrary to Amir Khans teams claims their offer was only TWICE the figure Paul has made before, not 3,4,5,or 6.

    As Khans team would not negotiate on this low figure. I suggested we look at other ways that could improve the deal on Paul’s part to make it worthy of a world title fight, namely commission on:

    1: Ticket sales
    2: PPV sales

    I suggested that we would get a commission on the tickets that we sold on an incentive basis. The more we sold the higher percentage we would make, up to a figure of 25 percent. Khans team would only agree to 20 PERCENT COMMISSION ON SALES OVER AND ABOVE 100k.

    Pay per view
    We do accept that Amir is the pay per view attraction, with that in mind we suggested that we acquire the viewing figures of Amir Khan Vs Maidana fight. We then proposed that if those figures increased for this fight we would look for one of three options:

    1: 50/50 split on Irish sales over and above the last figures.
    2: 20 percent on overall sales over and above the last figures.
    We were prepared to risk that these deals could mean nothing to us if PPV or ticket sales did not increase. If they did both parties would benefit.
    3: 80 / 20 split on nett revenue generated from the contest. This option was suggested because Khans team said they were taking all the risks if this fight did not sell.

    Khans team offered 25 PERCENT ON PPV SALES OVER AND ABOVE 200000. The Khan Maidana fight did not get anywhere near this number, so this offer was potentially worthless.

    The next requirements of Khans team were their three options on Paul if he won the fight.
    1: Khan gets a rematch. Paul would be paid a cash amount.
    2: Paul’s next fight would be promoted by Khan and they take a percentage.
    3: Paul’s next fight again would be promoted by Khan and they take a percentage.

    On option one we felt Paul as world champion should receive a 50/50 percentage split of the rematch. The cash amount offered was only equal to what we asked for in the first fight. We were willing to accept. options two and three.

    These are the facts in black and white taken from our correspondence with team Khan Amir has said that we kept moving the goal posts . On the contrary we tried to move around the Blockage caused by their low offer, which by all accounts was even less than Peterson’s offer. Amir is a great fighter , therefore above all people he knows how tough this sport can be ,he also knows the dedication commitment and sacrifices boxers have to make .He should show respect to his fellow professionals and offer them fair purses.

    Shah has said they gave in to so many of our demands obviously had they agreed to any of our requests we would not be in this position. We were never going to sell Paul short he is no walkover in the ring and we will make sure he is not outside it either Paul really wanted this fight and we feel that we did everything in our power to make it happen. Our requests were very reasonable in the circumstances. We regret that the Khan team could not agree. The general boxing public are the ones who are missing out on a great fight for this part of the world. ONE THAT WE KNOW PAUL WOULD HAVE WON AND RETAIN HIS UNBEATEN RECORD.

    We wish the Khan team all the best in the future.

    We would like to thank all the fans for their support. 2011 is going to be a big year for Paul McCloskey and his fans. He and his team believe he will be world champion by the end of this year.

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    Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

    He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

    He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.
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    Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
    Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole
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    I have a feeling that the winner of Bradley/Alexander will also be lowballed from Khan's team in the future, probably something like a 99/1 split in favor of Khan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

    He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.
    Spot on.
    and to be even fairer it's not the first time someone in negotation with Khan has said they were taking the piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Khan's team seem to be absolute fannies when it comes to money. But in the grand scheme of things, Paul McCloskey is a very average fighter who's not really done enough to even warrant a shot. Fighters who struggle with guys like Lauri should just be thankful they've somehow landed a shot at a world title. Besides, it's not like he's a young lad anymore.

    He should have taken the money. Especially if his team were that 'certain' of him winning. As it stands, i think even his team know the chances of him beating Khan would be very slim, so they were obviously looking to cash in on it.
    Spot on.
    and to be even fairer it's not the first time someone in negotation with Khan has said they were taking the piss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole
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    This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.
    khan said the offer was not only 3 times, but maybe 4 or 5 times what he had in his last fight. Then said the Ariza split was because he didnt agree with what he was doing in training. I would like him to elaborate on that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    This seems to be a trend with Khan and his team. Even tonight on Sky Khan has been repeating the lies and tactfully avoided discussing what really happened with Ariza. Low balling opponents is just not cool. Even if you just want a stay busy opponent then you should compensate them sufficiently. It should never be less than 60/40 IMO and every fighter should adhere to it and adapt accordinly to the level of the opponent. Anything less is a slap in the face for what it takes to get in the ring.
    khan said the offer was not only 3 times, but maybe 4 or 5 times what he had in his last fight. Then said the Ariza split was because he didnt agree with what he was doing in training. I would like him to elaborate on that....
    Yeah, looked like a lot of bullshit to me. Same old, same old with Khan and Co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropanuke View Post
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    Boxing would b better without khan. Fu cking arshole
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    I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I'm not a huge fan of Con the way i am of Manny Pacquiao and was of Joe Calzaghe. I'm only an average fan of Con. It's pretty obvious Con wants to dictate everything here. Some of his counter offers are just moronic (25% on sales over 200000). But at the same time doesn't Paul McCloskey realize he's only Paul McCloskey? Why the fuck is he trying to negotiate like he's actually somebody? He's no Tim Bradley or Marcos Maidana. He ain't even a Julio Diaz or Willy Blain. Bradley and Maidana are 2 of the division top stars. Diaz is a shot former champion. But he was a champion. Blain at least can say he's a 2 time Olympian amateur star. Paul McCloskey is like Paul McCloskey. And Paul McCloskey's don't get to make demands. His team admitted the offer was twice what he ever made. Does he not know getting doubled what you ever made is actually a good thing? Unless his previous highest purse was $12 dollars what the fuck is the problem? Your Paul McCloskey. How much have you deluded yourself into thinking your worth? It's obvious Con is deadly afraid of Precott and wants the easiest fight possible. So do everyone a favor and take the fight. The faster you accept the faster this charade is over. Not only that but the chances of you losing to a fellow scrub like Graeme Higginson or Peter McDonagh are pretty fucking high. I doubt the offer will still be on the table after that
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