Thread: Main Reason there was no Ali-Foreman II?

Always have to wonder how this would have gone the 2nd time round. Really has to be the fight I most would have wanted to see, except for maybe Tyson-Holyfield circa 1990. No way does rope-a-dope work the 2nd time round. No way. I say Big George pumps 50 telephone-pole jabs per round until it sucks all the energy out of ali's back and neck. Big George. Big George.

See ali fought Frazier and Norton 3 times but wouldnt dare touch Foreman again. I heard he had blood in his urine from contused kidneys for 4 weeks after the fight.

foreman would have beaten ali 9 times out of 10 at that point in their careers

the build up and the crowd, everything went against george

i agree. and maybe those ropes ARE a bit rubbery there, hey? check it out. ever see ropes like that, EVER?

The win was the upset of all upsets... Except no one was upset, so everyone forgot it was an upset

Seriously though, i'm kinda glad people are starting to look into just how inflated Ali's gold plated resume is.

I'm sure George stated it never happened because he didn't want it to... not really sure what version of george said that... the real one or the PR one

Yeah Fat George was very... erm... 'Polite' when it came to talking about his previous opponents.

The crowd and the public had made Ali a golden boy just like the Flashing grin of Leonard. Duran and Foreman were the bad guys but Foreman was bad. He was angry but in his second career he evolved. Even though his favorite food was a Burger King burger, he did not get excited and his jab became more of a club. The laughed at him and he kept winning. If George developed this personality change back then his career would have been very different and talk about fear, who would enter the ring without pre-paid hospital insurance.

Just for the record I am and always was an Ali fan but the simple truth is that Foreman still needed a little more experience and he was huffing and puffing in his first career because not too many guys could avoid his punishing blows. All he needed to do was calm down and do more roadwork. He never saw more than a few late rounds but he was knocking everyone out and Ali revealed this flaw the first time. Imagine if Dundee was Foreman's trainer instead.

Foreman had mental scars after the fight with Ali. Also though to be fair Ali was on the slope from then on too so any second match would have been against a fading Ali and George wouldn't have gotten the recognition even if he had won IMO.

great points everybody. yeah if foreman coulda thrown those huge left jabs--like the one that rocked and reeld a prime holyfield that night---Im sure it woulda had a great effect on Ali. And it woulda conserved george alot of energy so by the 8th round he woulda had some gas in the tank.

johnsebastianmiran

Re: Main Reason there was no Ali-Foreman II?
Just for the record I am and always was an Ali fan but the simple truth is that Foreman still needed a little more experience and he was huffing and puffing in his first career because not too many guys could avoid his punishing blows. All he needed to do was calm down and do more roadwork. He never saw more than a few late rounds but he was knocking everyone out and Ali revealed this flaw the first time. Imagine if Dundee was Foreman's trainer instead.

I don't know what benefits will a chearleader bring to Forman

George claimed that Ali ruined him psychologically in that documentary where Frazier, Ali, Holmes, Norton and George sat together and broke bread.
Said he attributed the losses to Young etc. to Ali's demolition of his psyche

When a bully gets bullied, he don't wanna fight anymore.
If they would have fought a 2nd time, Ali would have had another gameplan himself. Was Foreman's jab better the Ali's jab? We certainly know Ali was quicker.
IMO, Ali would have stopped Foreman on his stool.

Simple reason is Forman did not want the fight.

Ali spoke a few times about fighting Forman again but Forman did not want to know.

I've watched/read Foreman talking about his psychological condition in the aftermath of his loss and I actually think Ali would have handed him a one-sided beating if they fought again because of his mental state. His confidence was gone, he knew he had been exposed as a bully, and it took him a long time to recover.