How does Bernard stretch the rules? Let me count the ways!

-A thumb in the eye
-Kidney shots when the ref's view is blocked
-Low blows not hard enough to cause a stoppage, but hard enough to, ahem, get one's attention
-Grinding one's chin into the shoulder of the foe during clinches
-Holding onto clinches with the arm opposite the ref to burn some clock
-Using the top of the head as a ram
-Spinning the foe and hitting him from behind

The guy is a frakkin genius!

Bernard is no angel, but he won a clean fight, and if anything I noticed Pascal likes to hit behind the head whenever possible.

Originally Posted by No Contest

Bernard is no angel, but he won a clean fight, and if anything I noticed Pascal likes to hit behind the head whenever possible.

Come on, he's the most intelligent bender of the rules since Roberto Duran! I'm not knocking the guy. I think it's a legit element at this level.

You saying he did all those things against Pascal, because all I saw was possible kidney shot in the clinch. Pascal was a lil obvious trying to use the head once they had clinched. But I didnt see B-Hop putting his head down like a ram, like he has done in the past. Pascal was the one holding when the ref called break. Pascal was the one hitting behind the head in close. I missed the last 2 rounds, but B-Hop fought a pretty clean fight to me.

Originally Posted by No Contest

You saying he did all those things against Pascal, because all I saw was possible kidney shot in the clinch. Pascal was a lil obvious trying to use the head once they had clinched. But I didnt see B-Hop putting his head down like a ram, like he has done in the past. Pascal was the one holding when the ref called break. Pascal was the one hitting behind the head in close. I missed the last 2 rounds, but B-Hop fought a pretty clean fight to me.

He did every one of the things I listed at least once tonight.

Looks like its "Trolling" time in maui

Tonight Pascal was the dirtier fighter by a landslide

What did you see Pascal do? Just curious. I think you may be hyper sensitive to policing B-Hop. I didnt see any thumb to the eye. Low blows, grind his chin in his shoulder? You may be exaggerating what basically every boxer does. Spinning a foe and hitting him from behind? Hmm maybe thats just called good footwork. Pascal like to lunge and he's not always in control of where he ends up after a punch.

I saw Pascal get dropped twice, but ref was lapse on rules so he didnt call it. Kinda like a blind side low blow I guess

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

How does Bernard stretch the rules? Let me count the ways!

-A thumb in the eye
-Kidney shots when the ref's view is blocked
-Low blows not hard enough to cause a stoppage, but hard enough to, ahem, get one's attention
-Grinding one's chin into the shoulder of the foe during clinches
-Holding onto clinches with the arm opposite the ref to burn some clock
-Using the top of the head as a ram
-Spinning the foe and hitting him from behind

The guy is a frakkin genius!

or a dirty cheating bastard...

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

How does Bernard stretch the rules? Let me count the ways!

-A thumb in the eye
-Kidney shots when the ref's view is blocked
-Low blows not hard enough to cause a stoppage, but hard enough to, ahem, get one's attention
-Grinding one's chin into the shoulder of the foe during clinches
-Holding onto clinches with the arm opposite the ref to burn some clock
-Using the top of the head as a ram
-Spinning the foe and hitting him from behind

The guy is a frakkin genius!

or a dirty cheating bastard...

Or Ricky Hatton

Originally Posted by Snakey

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

How does Bernard stretch the rules? Let me count the ways!

-A thumb in the eye
-Kidney shots when the ref's view is blocked
-Low blows not hard enough to cause a stoppage, but hard enough to, ahem, get one's attention
-Grinding one's chin into the shoulder of the foe during clinches
-Holding onto clinches with the arm opposite the ref to burn some clock
-Using the top of the head as a ram
-Spinning the foe and hitting him from behind

The guy is a frakkin genius!

or a dirty cheating bastard...

Or Ricky Hatton

oh well! that's ok then

Originally Posted by No Contest

What did you see Pascal do? Just curious. I think you may be hyper sensitive to policing B-Hop. I didnt see any thumb to the eye. Low blows, grind his chin in his shoulder? You may be exaggerating what basically every boxer does. Spinning a foe and hitting him from behind? Hmm maybe thats just called good footwork. Pascal like to lunge and he's not always in control of where he ends up after a punch.

Again you are thinking I am berating BHOP when the opposite is true! If you didn't see a thumb you weren't paying attention. It was replayed and Stewart commented on it several times.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

How does Bernard stretch the rules? Let me count the ways!

-A thumb in the eye
-Kidney shots when the ref's view is blocked
-Low blows not hard enough to cause a stoppage, but hard enough to, ahem, get one's attention
-Grinding one's chin into the shoulder of the foe during clinches
-Holding onto clinches with the arm opposite the ref to burn some clock
-Using the top of the head as a ram
-Spinning the foe and hitting him from behind

The guy is a frakkin genius!

or a dirty cheating bastard...

It's an inconsistency in my thinking. I am generally an obey the rules guy. But I think in the most brutal of sports, boxing, football (the one where people don't pretend to have no arms) there is such a thing as gamesmanship that recongizes the primitive kind of competition we are seeing.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I saw Pascal get dropped twice, but ref was lapse on rules so he didnt call it. Kinda like a blind side low blow I guess

Even BHOP said those were slips.

Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I saw Pascal get dropped twice, but ref was lapse on rules so he didnt call it. Kinda like a blind side low blow I guess

Even BHOP said those were slips.

He also said Pascal had what it took to be a legend , or was it hall of famer ?