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Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
Is Vanes ready for this type of heat?
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
IMO he lost to Ouma, so no, i don't think he is honestly don't rate Martirosyan highlyOriginally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
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I thought Ouma beat him also and I m not very high on him. I think he's like a Sergio Mora level fighter, maybe slightly better but Cintron would brutalize him imo..IMO he lost to Ouma, so no, i don't think he is honestly don't rate Martirosyan highly
Cintron gets no love for many reasons but Im an avid fan of this guy.
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Agreed.IMO he lost to Ouma, so no, i don't think he is honestly don't rate Martirosyan highly
Fuck this Martirosyan asshole. He's an arrogant prick and not all that good. I was happy to see he got knocked on his ass tonight, and disapointed that he came back to win the fight against a guy I had never heard of.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
Cintron should change his nickname.
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No.
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
I met him 4 years ago at the gym. Freddie Roach's brother, Pepper, said Vanes will win 5 world titles. I've never seen him fight, though.
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I havent seen any hate on this forum but Im tired of other people talking shit about Cintron.. Kermit is a killer, straight up. This guy started boxing when he was 19 with no amatuer experience. He used to be a wrestling standout and had to make a late transition to this sport so for a guy who picked up boxing that late, he's an overachiever. Most guys who started boxing late are not able to box naturally but kermit is a fuckin natural.. He boxes instinctively unlike the Chavez Jrs and the Paez Jrs...
His losses to Margo are questionable due to the plaster scandal and who would have thought that he'd be the one to take Angulo's 0? Even against williams, he was winning the fight prior to jumping out the ring like nacho libre n shit. I dont know what happened there but the fact is, he's a dammm great fighter and he can have hiccups just like any other fighter out there...
He would beat the shit out of Vanes and Cotto right now.
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
well he was also given a gift draw in a fight he lost twice, he's a decent fighter, and IMO he'd never beat Cotto, Miguel schools him just like Cintron schooled Angulo
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I gotta say Cintron has had some very strange moments psychologically. Thinking the right hand from Sergio he thought was a headbutt and whined about? Weird. Crying in the ring after the Margarito KO? Weird. Diving out of the ring with Williams? Weird. All three coming from one fighter? Extra weird.
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
Cotto, at his best, probably would have beaten Cintron but he's lost quite a few steps. He's past his prime ( slightly ) and with his guard being the way it is, he's susceptible to uppercuts which happens to be a lethal weapon of Cintron. He'd also have to worry about Kermit's jabs and he if he does get past it, right hand would be waiting for him.well he was also given a gift draw in a fight he lost twice, he's a decent fighter, and IMO he'd never beat Cotto, Miguel schools him just like Cintron schooled Angulo
Cintron is just all wrong for him imo.
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Cotto has the better timing, his defense looked sharper than ever against Mayorga, he's a better technical fighter than Cintron, has better footwork than Kermit, and he puts combinations together better than Cintron, Kermit has always been open to the body as seen against Margarito in the rematch, Cotto would pop him off with the jab, timing Kermit as he comes in and would just flurry him and move away busting him up throughout the fight, probably getting a UD or late stoppageCotto, at his best, probably would have beaten Cintron but he's lost quite a few steps. He's past his prime ( slightly ) and with his guard being the way it is, he's susceptible to uppercuts which happens to be a lethal weapon of Cintron. He'd also have to worry about Kermit's jabs and he if he does get past it, right hand would be waiting for him.well he was also given a gift draw in a fight he lost twice, he's a decent fighter, and IMO he'd never beat Cotto, Miguel schools him just like Cintron schooled Angulo
Cintron is just all wrong for him imo.
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Maybe you're putting a little too much stock into the current Cotto cuz honestly, it sounds like you're describing an 08 version of him.. He's clearly not as sharp as back then and i think his punch resistance has gone down a little bit. His defense appeared as though it got sharper because look who was in front of him.. a defenseless and crude Mayorga gave didnt give him much to think about from a technical standpoint. And I dont Cotto looked that great against mayorga cuz frankly, he shouldn't have got hit that often. Mayorga even hurt him a few times and it was evident that Cotto's best days are behind him. Better footwork than Cintron? No way bro... At best, they are on par in terms of footwork. Cintron positions himself better and finds better openings i think but that's just me. Cotto is the better body puncher, no arguemene there but I also think you're understimating Kermits' size and reach advantage. For sure this version of Cotto isn't going to jab his way inside cuz he'd just be running into right hands and uppercuts from long range. Cotto's jab is good but it's not better than Cintron's and he just doesnt use them enough. They are also equal in the boxing department so cotto would have to take alot of chances to get within punching range and dont see him making it to 12th round.Cotto has the better timing, his defense looked sharper than ever against Mayorga, he's a better technical fighter than Cintron, has better footwork than Kermit, and he puts combinations together better than Cintron, Kermit has always been open to the body as seen against Margarito in the rematch, Cotto would pop him off with the jab, timing Kermit as he comes in and would just flurry him and move away busting him up throughout the fight, probably getting a UD or late stoppageCotto, at his best, probably would have beaten Cintron but he's lost quite a few steps. He's past his prime ( slightly ) and with his guard being the way it is, he's susceptible to uppercuts which happens to be a lethal weapon of Cintron. He'd also have to worry about Kermit's jabs and he if he does get past it, right hand would be waiting for him.well he was also given a gift draw in a fight he lost twice, he's a decent fighter, and IMO he'd never beat Cotto, Miguel schools him just like Cintron schooled Angulo
Cintron is just all wrong for him imo.
Cintron wanted to fight cotto badly but Arum and co knows that he's a dangerous/Low reward opponent so they arent speaking a word of him. They're both Puerto Ricans so a fight on the island would sell..
Understandable though, Cintron is too risky for him.
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Cintron was offered the fight 2 yrs ago here on the island and chose not to take it, and the only punches Mayorga landed that "hurt" Cotto were the 5 repeated shots to the back of the head, we're gonna have to agree to disagree, cause IMO no way in hell does Kermit beat any version of Cotto, who has he EVER beaten on the level of Cotto? his biggest win to date was the decision against Angulo, anything other than that has been kinda flatMaybe you're putting a little too much stock into the current Cotto cuz honestly, it sounds like you're describing an 08 version of him.. He's clearly not as sharp as back then and i think his punch resistance has gone down a little bit. His defense appeared as though it got sharper because look who was in front of him.. a defenseless and crude Mayorga gave didnt give him much to think about from a technical standpoint. And I dont Cotto looked that great against mayorga cuz frankly, he shouldn't have got hit that often. Mayorga even hurt him a few times and it was evident that Cotto's best days are behind him. Better footwork than Cintron? No way bro... At best, they are on par in terms of footwork. Cintron positions himself better and finds better openings i think but that's just me. Cotto is the better body puncher, no arguemene there but I also think you're understimating Kermits' size and reach advantage. For sure this version of Cotto isn't going to jab his way inside cuz he'd just be running into right hands and uppercuts from long range. Cotto's jab is good but it's not better than Cintron's and he just doesnt use them enough. They are also equal in the boxing department so cotto would have to take alot of chances to get within punching range and dont see him making it to 12th round.Cotto has the better timing, his defense looked sharper than ever against Mayorga, he's a better technical fighter than Cintron, has better footwork than Kermit, and he puts combinations together better than Cintron, Kermit has always been open to the body as seen against Margarito in the rematch, Cotto would pop him off with the jab, timing Kermit as he comes in and would just flurry him and move away busting him up throughout the fight, probably getting a UD or late stoppageCotto, at his best, probably would have beaten Cintron but he's lost quite a few steps. He's past his prime ( slightly ) and with his guard being the way it is, he's susceptible to uppercuts which happens to be a lethal weapon of Cintron. He'd also have to worry about Kermit's jabs and he if he does get past it, right hand would be waiting for him.well he was also given a gift draw in a fight he lost twice, he's a decent fighter, and IMO he'd never beat Cotto, Miguel schools him just like Cintron schooled Angulo
Cintron is just all wrong for him imo.
Cintron wanted to fight cotto badly but Arum and co knows that he's a dangerous/Low reward opponent so they arent speaking a word of him. They're both Puerto Ricans so a fight on the island would sell..
Understandable though, Cintron is too risky for him.
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Re: Kermit THE KILLER Cintron VS Vanes Martirosyan
I think Cintron with a champions mentality would be a top p4p fighter, he really does have a great skill set, but he lives with Judah syndrome, where you never know when he's just going to fall apart.
I really had high hopes for him when he was coming up, but I think that ship has sailed now. I would love to see him against Martirosyan as I think that's a fight he could win, but there are a lot fighters that beat him after that IMO.
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