Thread: Glass cannons, or their granite counterparts.

Ok, ridiculous thread name, but w/e. Pavliks power or chin thread just got me to thinking a bit about how rare it is for a fighter to really only have one or the other on a high level. So I'm wondering if people care to list noteable fighters who've had an extreme discrepancy between their punching power and overall durability.
Guy's who could punch like hell but were vulnerable I deem glass cannons. I'm sure people will be able to come up with some good names here, although I'm currently drawing blanks to many which is why I posted this.
The granite counterpart would be a fighter who was known for being incredibly durable but with very little firepower. It strikes me this type of fighter would be countless at the journeyman level, but it's hard to think of many who really made much noise right now. Keep in mind I'm not only looking for extreme examples but hope to read a couple. Just off the top of my head;

Glass cannons

Wlad Klitschko: the best example I can think of in recent times.
Thomas Hearns: The posterchild for this, really.
Terry Norris.
Junior Jones: not a murderous puncher but he could definetly bang and was very chinny.
Kevin Kelley: similar, to a lesser extent.
Earnie Shavers: Much more difficult to classify because he invested in his shots so much that he was open to huge counter punches, not exactly chinny but not durable.

Granite Counterparts

This is where I'm struggling to think of anybody really noteworthy. Can anyone give me some names? Don't say Whittaker, he could punch when he had to and noone hit him much at all. I want guys who were known for taking punishment and still winning fights with modest power. Logic would dictate this kind of fighter never actually makes it to the elite level as you need some pop to actually get respect, but try your best I'm interested to hear some

On the granite chins, it would have to be my personal fave Librado Andrade. Although he's stopped a lot of guys it's largely down to his ability to just keep coming. Another one would be Steve Forbes, that guy might have the best chin I've seen, although sadly it looks like it's caught up with him after however many years & about 15lbs above his natural weight.

Another one for the glass cannons has to be Jhonny Gonzalez.

Troy Dorsey granite with nerf ball hands.....Charles Brewer throwing bombs with a chin made of rice paper.

Nice reps to both of you, those are exactly the kind of guys I wasn't able to come up with. I actually remember watching Troy Dorsey fight Kevin Kelley that was an absolute war and a great example of the opposite extreme's clashing. Andrade is a good example to, even say Margarito or Glen Johnson could qualify like that to a lesser extent.

I REALLY think Hearns having a bad chin is a myth. It just wasn't as good as his other gifts.

The top of the Glass Cannon list has got to be Bombadier Bob Satterfield, the 175 and heavy of the 1950's. He could take ANYONE out, but the top guys always got him first.
Florentino Fernandez was a kill or be killed guy at middle in the 1960's.
Tami Mauriello was one of these. Check out his incredible one round fight with Joe Louis!
George KO Chaney was a kill or be killed feather. HUGE puncher. Got drilled early several times.

Granite Counterparts

Vito Antuofuermo is an obvious one. He hit like a lightweight and took shots like a 175.
How about Clutchin' Sammy Angott?
Mike Quarry coulnd't punch to save his life. But I don't know that he took a ton of shots.

More recently Juan Diaz kind of falls into that category doesn't he?

Paul Malignaggi couldn't break wind but could take big shots

Granite Counterparts: Merciless Ray Mercer
David Tuaman Tua
Rocky Marciano

o shoot I did not see the modest power, sorry

Hey...what about a Herbie Hide

Vinny Paz really couldn't hit even though he acted like he could but he could take shots.

Alfred Ice Cole....hella chin.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Ok, ridiculous thread name, but w/e. Pavliks power or chin thread just got me to thinking a bit about how rare it is for a fighter to really only have one or the other on a high level. So I'm wondering if people care to list noteable fighters who've had an extreme discrepancy between their punching power and overall durability.
Guy's who could punch like hell but were vulnerable I deem glass cannons. I'm sure people will be able to come up with some good names here, although I'm currently drawing blanks to many which is why I posted this.
The granite counterpart would be a fighter who was known for being incredibly durable but with very little firepower. It strikes me this type of fighter would be countless at the journeyman level, but it's hard to think of many who really made much noise right now. Keep in mind I'm not only looking for extreme examples but hope to read a couple. Just off the top of my head;

Glass cannons

Wlad Klitschko: the best example I can think of in recent times.
Thomas Hearns: The posterchild for this, really.
Terry Norris.
Junior Jones: not a murderous puncher but he could definetly bang and was very chinny.
Kevin Kelley: similar, to a lesser extent.
Earnie Shavers: Much more difficult to classify because he invested in his shots so much that he was open to huge counter punches, not exactly chinny but not durable.

Granite Counterparts

This is where I'm struggling to think of anybody really noteworthy. Can anyone give me some names? Don't say Whittaker, he could punch when he had to and noone hit him much at all. I want guys who were known for taking punishment and still winning fights with modest power. Logic would dictate this kind of fighter never actually makes it to the elite level as you need some pop to actually get respect, but try your best I'm interested to hear some

Jake Lamotta i think is one of the best examples for 2nd question, not a big puncher he used to wear you down with a relentless body attack. And also had one of the best chins of all time.