Thread: Hopkins-Dawson rematch negotiations underway

by Lem Satterfield
Jan 3rd, 2012

Negotiations for a rematch between Chad Dawson and RING light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins should begin soon, according to Dawson's promoter, Gary Shaw, who successfully argued for the return bout with Hopkins at last month's WBC's convention in Las Vegas.

Hopkins (52-5-2, 32 knockouts), who will turn 47 on Jan. 15, told RingTV.com that he expects to return to full-time training this month with the goal of getting back into the ring in March as he approaches the final stages of recovery from a left shoulder separation that happened during October's controversial bout with Dawson.

The result of the fight was initially ruled to be a second-round TKO victory for Dawson(30-1, 17 KOs) after Hopkins was shoved to the canvas and considered to be unfit to continue by referee Pat Russell.

But last month, the California State Athletic Commission officially ruled Hopkins-Dawson a no-contest, with that scenario coming in the wake of the WBC's having restored Hopkins as beltholder following a majority vote of board members who disagreed with Russell's call. The board ruled the fight a "technical draw."

"I will be calling [Golden Boy Promotions CEO] Richard Schaefer this week to start a negotiation," said Shaw, referring to Hopkins' promoter. "Chad Dawson is ready, willing and able to fulfill his obligation to challenge Bernard Hopkins for the WBC world title."

In an interview with RingTV.com, Hopkins also listed what he feels would be more lucrative bouts than Dawson, naming RING No. 1-rated super middleweight Lucian Bute (30-0, 24 KOs) and light heavyweights Nathan Cleverly of the United Kingdom, and Beibut Shumenov of Las Vegas.

The 24-year-old Cleverly (23-0, 11 KOs) is the holder of the WBO belt. The 28-year-old Shumenov (12-1, 8 KOs), a native of Kazakhstan who lives in Las Vegas, has the WBA title.

Hopkins said that he will pursue the fights with Bute, Cleverly or Shumenov if the money isn't right for the Hopkins-Dawson II.

"I respect Bernard Hopkins, and the fact that he's willing to fulfill his obligation as mandated by the WBC. I read his comments. My only feeling is that fighters should be fighting because they're fighters, and the money comes with the fight," said Shaw.

"Not that they're just fighting for the money. They're fighting for the glory of boxing and for either defending the world title or trying to retain the world title."

In December of last year, Hopkins got up from two knockdowns during his draw with RING No. 1-rated light heavyweight Jean Pascal in the Pascal's native Canada. Hopkins returned to Canada to dethrone Pascal as WBC beltholder by unanimous decision in May.

In victory over Pascal, Hopkins, then 46, became the oldest man to win a major title in boxing. Before facing Hopkins, Pascal had beaten Dawson in defense of his WBC belt by 11th-round technical decision in August of last year.

Shaw said that in the event that a deal can't be reached to fight Hopkins, Dawson would consider a rematch with Pascal or a shot at unbeaten RING No. 2-rated light heavyweight Tavoris Cloud, owner of the IBF belt.

"Right now, the only fight that is in my mind is our rematch against Bernard Hopkins," said Shaw. "But Chad Dawson has never ducked anyone, and would always fight a Tavoris Cloud, or a Jean Pascal, or anyone else."

If Hopkins' shoulder has fully healed at his age then I pick Hopkins to get a UD.

Back by popular demand.

This fight should not even be an issue. This fight is the best money making fight possible. Saying that, both fighters owe everyone a free fight. NO PPV!!!!

It shouldn't be on PPV. No way. It would be great as an undercard to a really big fight like Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao because it didn't sell well on its own but it's got two big names. I like Dawson by UD.

I've lost a lot of money beting against B-Hop. But I just can't see Hopkins beating Chad in any way. Chad by corner stoppage.

I think hopkins goes all out and stops dawson and fight should not be ppv

Dawson by clear UD.

But Hopkins won't take the fight, mark my words. He basically said as much (and contradicted himself big-time) in a recent interview on the Ring site. "I'll definitely fight Dawson if the money's right, but if it's not, I'll vacate the belt and take something more lucrative that will be a 'big event.'" He then lists fights against Shumenov (seriously) and Cleverly as options. He also listed Bute, which, granted, would be a bigger money-earner than Dawson. (He also said "no way" about Cloud, also claiming that there would be no money -- versus that huge superstar Shumenov, you know.)

The real issue is that Dawson is the only one of those guys whom I'd favor to beat Hopkins.

I'd really like Chad to commit to fighting all 12 rounds (or as many as necessary). If he focused more rather than getting bored and taking breaks, I think he'd easily be a top 5 p4p guy. But maybe that's just who he'll always be. I'd still pick him over everyone at 168 or 175 though.

Of course the fight happens, Hopkins ain't going out like that. He had Dawson off his stride to pull such a move, had him reacting and ranting afterwards and deep down Dawsons people know they are actually the ones who need to erase the asterisk. Be it the rematches and or coasting luke warm showings in spots, Dawson has had a very hard time getting traction and forward career motion. He needs to strike fire or it'll pass him bye as a would have could have talent. I got Hopkins by w.12

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Of course the fight happens, Hopkins ain't going out like that. He had Dawson off his stride to pull such a move, had him reacting and ranting afterwards and deep down Dawsons people know they are actually the ones who need to erase the asterisk. Be it the rematches and or coasting luke warm showings in spots, Dawson has had a very hard time getting traction and forward career motion. He needs to strike fire or it'll pass him bye as a would have could have talent. I got Hopkins by w.12

I hope you're right but everything that's come out of Hopkins's camp says otherwise.

Hopkins himself saying he would need new financial backers to come in and guarantee big money for it to happen. Exclusive Q&A: Hopkins wants to go out "guns blazing" in 2012 | RingTV

Richard Schaefer: “I’m not interested,” Schaefer said. “I told Bernard, ‘I’ll do any fight you want.’ The only one I don’t want is Chad Dawson. The chairman of the commission even said that people don’t want to see them fight because of their styles." California commission rules Hopkins-Dawson fight 'no-decision' | RingTV

I can't see this fight happening, Hopkins cannot beat Chad at this point in his career, he should maneuver his career like George Foreman and just make the biggest money fights out there against limited fighters like Bute.

It will be a very boring fight but they are two of the best light heavy's out there so it's gotta happen.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Of course the fight happens, Hopkins ain't going out like that. He had Dawson off his stride to pull such a move, had him reacting and ranting afterwards and deep down Dawsons people know they are actually the ones who need to erase the asterisk. Be it the rematches and or coasting luke warm showings in spots, Dawson has had a very hard time getting traction and forward career motion. He needs to strike fire or it'll pass him bye as a would have could have talent. I got Hopkins by w.12

Spot on.

I hope Hopkins doesn't weasle his way out of this one..

Dawson UD.. maybe even a lateTKO..

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

I hope Hopkins doesn't weasle his way out of this one..

Dawson UD.. maybe even a lateTKO..

I don't see this happening only for the reason that Hopkins tends to do well in drawn out fights. Especially when he can keep much from happening. He was winning against Dawson last time simply by not engaging.