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    Default Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler did

    Just watching the fabulous 4 and hearns v hagler and looking at the shots both on the replays and generally could anyone else exept hagler have come out cold in round 1 and taken those shots? Im not saying no but just wondering who!?!? We have some great chins but I cant think off the top of my head of any who could have survived that - e.g look at Duran and what happened lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakleyno1 View Post
    Just watching the fabulous 4 and hearns v hagler and looking at the shots both on the replays and generally could anyone else exept hagler have come out cold in round 1 and taken those shots? Im not saying no but just wondering who!?!? We have some great chins but I cant think off the top of my head of any who could have survived that - e.g look at Duran and what happened lol
    Floyd PacMan would be on there back's looking at the star's, both KO no problem at all
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    ıts hawk tıme bıtches. you better belıeve ıt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
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    Yes he did beat Tommy in the am's.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Sugar Ray would have walked through the Hit Man

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    That is Sugar ray Robinson by the way .

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Carlos Monzon
    Aaron Pryor
    Bennie Briscoe
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Archie Moore
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Chris Eubank
    Mike McCallum
    Antonio Margarito
    Dick Tiger
    Jake LaMotta
    Charley Burley
    Ezzard Charles
    James Toney
    Beranrd Hopkins
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Last edited by ICB; 01-22-2012 at 01:13 AM.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Hagler was a tough nut, he was hurt alright. He was cut too, that cut was serious and if he didn't knock Tommy out in the 3rd it is unlikely Hagler could've continued beyond rounds 4 and 5? It wouldn't have been Hagler's choice, but the cut would've seen a stoppage.
    As it happened he took all of Tommy Hearns best shots and survived, he then stepped on the gas after being cut and finished the job. Hagler had a granite like chin and i think Tommy Hearns was genuinely shocked Hagler didn't go down after landing so many big shots. If anything it appeared to have galvanised Hagler and he was relentless for the next two rounds. Would loved to have seen a rematch, but c'est la vie.
    As for any others, Monzon would've taken all Hearns shots and probably KO'd him the same way Hagler did.
    Last edited by THE THIRD MAN; 01-24-2012 at 10:39 AM.

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    Aaron Pryor would have gotten hammered by Hearns in the pros.

    Margarito would have been massacred by The Hitman.

    The others I could see doing ok...LaMatta maybe?

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Carlos Monzon
    Aaron Pryor
    Bennie Briscoe
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Archie Moore
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Chris Eubank
    Mike McCallum
    Antonio Margarito
    Dick Tiger
    Jake LaMotta
    Charley Burley
    Ezzard Charles
    James Toney
    Beranrd Hopkins
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Great list.
    Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
    Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    I don't think Light Heavyweights should really come into play here, seeing as this was a middleweight fight.

    LaMotta would've taken it.
    Robinson, too.

    I'm not sure about anybody else. Pryor probably had a pretty decent chance of staying in there.

    I don't really think Hagler was hurt, either. The guy's dome was hard like a football helmet. He had a fantastic chin. If he was hurt, he recovered fantastically.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.

    Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.

    Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots
    Arguello was a powerful hitter. I wouldn't put that to Pryor's discredit quite too much.

    Interesting enough that you referred to a professional Hearns as "all growed up." Jogged my memory I bit. Hearns barely got any knockouts as an Amatuer. He used his boxing skills to beat everybody in the beginning. He didn't develop his punch until he got into the professional game.

    Hearns was certainly fantastic. If the guy had an iron chin, he'd have been unstoppable. Imagine how much of a monster he would have been with an iron chin and excellent skills on the inside.

    My imagination is running away from me. I apologize.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    I think if Hearns could KO Duran he could KO anyone, especially at the lower weights the only people I could think that could have survived would be at middleweight Ray Robinson and Eubanks.
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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Carlos Monzon
    Aaron Pryor
    Bennie Briscoe
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Archie Moore
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Chris Eubank
    Mike McCallum
    Antonio Margarito
    Dick Tiger
    Jake LaMotta
    Charley Burley
    Ezzard Charles
    James Toney
    Beranrd Hopkins
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Great list.
    Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
    Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
    Nigel Benn would have been knocked down. But look out once he got back up
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