Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd picks shots off with his arms and shoulders....I'm telling you Cotto has stopped a guy with a punch to the shoulder. Miguel Cotto has the power to make an impact on how Floyd decides to fight...it's just a matter of getting the punches to the target on time

I can dig that but that guy wasn't Floyd Mayweather.

Let's be honest, Floyd isn't unbeatable. It just needs somebody with an unwavering focus and gameplan with the ability to box. If Oscar kept up that jab and those little flurries that at least stopped Floyd's output for the whole fight who knows what would have happened.

Floyd adjusted and Oscar lost his balls. Cotto is one man who MIGHT be able to stick to that plan. Ultimately, I see him causing trouble but perhaps losing his stomach for the fight late on when Floyd has landed a festival of right hands. It'll be an exciting fight though - I can almost guarantee it.

Cotto always comes to fight....Floyd will have to earn a W on May 5th, that's for certain. I know Cotto is the underdog but I'm cheering for him nevertheless!

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by bestjabwins

Cotto chances are slim. I don't think he has the tools for the job. Maybe his best chance is to try and get all over mayweather, but still, thats the flawed strategy that most of mayweathers previous opponents tried.
The best tool he's got is is jab, which is ramrod and well timed. His left hook is good but mayweather's philly shell puts a dampener these punches. in fact left hooks are liability against mayweather as he counters so well off of them.
So how does cotto have a good chance, other than a punchers chance?

1. Use the jab - De la Hoya had great success with his jab, Cotto used it well vs Mosley. The timing of the jab nullifies speed.

2. Land the hook often - work the body, work the arms, the shoulder, hips, everything. Miguel has a powerful punch, one powerful enough to break jaws, one powerful enough to stop a fighter with a shot to the shoulder. Working to the body takes the legs away, working on the guard takes the defense and speed away....after that Floyd may be downright normal if all goes to plan.

3. Make Floyd forget the right hand - Cotto can switch up and has big power in both hands...if he switches southpaw and can blast a right hook in and make contact then great, if he can lull Floyd into range and time a solid right cross from an orthodox stance even better...but Floyd must be more wary of the left hook than the right hand in order for Cotto to catch him offguard.

No doubt it's an uphill battle for Cotto, but he's a warrior, he has heart

Yeah, like i said cotto has a good jab, and the jab is key to any plan to beat mayweather.
But IMO Cotto trying to land left hooks is playing into mayweathers hands. The right side of mayweathers body and head is almost airtight, despite occasionally pulling back from hooks with his chin exposed. For the most part floyd only has to watch for the opponents jabs and right hands, and cotto's right hand isn't that fast. Cotto will eat enough right uppercuts and crosses to make him seriously think about throwing anymore left hooks.
Ok, i don't want to write cotto off totally, but if he wants to win he's going to have to have a better plan than just blasting mayweather with his power and trying to break his shoulder. I reckon he needs to pressure floyd into leading first or feint him into throwing a counter before he tries using the hook. then again you need good hand speed to make someone buy the feint, and i just don't think cotto's fast enough at this stage.

[QUOTE=Violent Demise;1056680]

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.


I'll volunteer be the judge.

He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.




I'll volunteer to be the judge.

Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.

Damn....... Well you can't blame a girl for trying.


Well at least I accomplished what I wanted, and that was to break things up a bit between you two.

[QUOTE=Diane;1057589]

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.


I'll volunteer be the judge.

He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.




I'll volunteer to be the judge.

Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.

Damn....... Well you can't blame a girl for trying.


Well at least I accomplished what I wanted, and that was to break things up a bit between you two.

And you did a damn good job.
Now..... about that contest you're volunteering to judge...........

[QUOTE=TitoFan;1057594]

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.


I'll volunteer be the judge.

He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.




I'll volunteer to be the judge.

Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.

Damn....... Well you can't blame a girl for trying.


Well at least I accomplished what I wanted, and that was to break things up a bit between you two.

And you did a damn good job.
Now..... about that contest you're volunteering to judge...........

Oh..... I'm still down for that.

[QUOTE=Diane;1057596]

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.


I'll volunteer be the judge.

He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.




I'll volunteer to be the judge.

Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.

Damn....... Well you can't blame a girl for trying.


Well at least I accomplished what I wanted, and that was to break things up a bit between you two.

And you did a damn good job.
Now..... about that contest you're volunteering to judge...........

Oh..... I'm still down for that.

Just pulled this out of the Internet:

"Dick-Judging Contest Rulebook"

Rule # 1: All female judges must wear the proper attire, consisting of a teeny tiny bikini (top part optional).

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Cotto was a burtal body puncher. Key word being was. Them days are over. He doesnt attack the body like before cuz he's wary of being countered upstairs. His once savage body attack was non-existant against Pacquiao and Margarito. I don't see it being a factor against Mayweather

OK....so you just think from 1 to 12 this is a total shutout? I think Cotto matches up fairly well, he'll at least give it a solid go for 5 rounds before he starts slowing down however the fight is going....I would be shocked if Floyd got to him any earlier. Floyd could be making a big mistake by not having a catchweight, believing Cotto's best is past him, and not trusting that Cotto is a solid BOXER as well as power puncher. Cotto has been hit with a lot before and always fought on...Floyd will have to wear him down make him chase, and coounter him. Cotto has been stopped 2 times once vs a cheater with loaded wraps and second at a catchweight and sans trainer. Cotto still has Pedro Diaz, a well respected trainer who really helped him do a number on Margarito...you never can tell when a fighter can get a second wind in his career.

Just because Cotto doesn't attack the body as aggressively as before doesn't mean he lacks power. Power and timing are key for Cotto...he will be outsped and be fighting a guy with better stamina, but he can change all that with a few punches. If Cotto hurts Floyd like Mosley and Zab did there WILL be a knockdown and perhaps a knockout.

Nobody says he lacks power. What I'm saying is you can't call him a brutal body puncher when he no longer attacks the body

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd picks shots off with his arms and shoulders....I'm telling you Cotto has stopped a guy with a punch to the shoulder. Miguel Cotto has the power to make an impact on how Floyd decides to fight...it's just a matter of getting the punches to the target on time

Remind me again when Gianluca Branco was actually good

Saw Cotto on ESPN being interviewed, looks cool calm and collected.

Originally Posted by Master

Saw Cotto on ESPN being interviewed, looks cool calm and collected.

hes just found out they use shower gel in prison now. One less thing to worry about.

Originally Posted by Leighton

Originally Posted by Master

Saw Cotto on ESPN being interviewed, looks cool calm and collected.

hes just found out they use shower gel in prison now. One less thing to worry about.

?

Uhh.... why would Cotto be worried about that?
Did he volunteer to do Floyd's upcoming jail time for him?

[QUOTE=TitoFan;1057603]

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.


I'll volunteer be the judge.

He's a fool. But I ain't trying to kill the boy. The humiliation would be to much for him to bear

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Diane

Seriously you two, you've been going at each other forever, so I'm surprised that you guys haven't whipped out your dicks to see whose is bigger.

Come on guys, whip those bad boys out, and lets all see who has the bigger one.




I'll volunteer to be the judge.

Aww... I'm just having a little fun. I stopped taking VD seriously a few dozen posts ago.

Damn....... Well you can't blame a girl for trying.


Well at least I accomplished what I wanted, and that was to break things up a bit between you two.

And you did a damn good job.
Now..... about that contest you're volunteering to judge...........

Oh..... I'm still down for that.

Just pulled this out of the Internet:

"Dick-Judging Contest Rulebook"

Rule # 1: All female judges must wear the proper attire, consisting of a teeny tiny bikini (top part optional).

hahahahaha

Nice try.

Now if I see you two going at it again, I will evoke my rights as a woman, and demand that you two settle this once and for all.

I think if Ortiz was somewhat succesful in taking PBF to the ropes and pinning him there it'll be a matter of what Cotto can land once he is there...
He would need to take advantage of those moments.

If PBF thinks he can go to the ropes and just let Cotto shoot he is making a big mistake IMO.
Cotto is the type of fighter that can finish you off if he has you pinned.


A huge Cotto fan but my prediction is PBF via decision.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I think if Ortiz was somewhat succesful in taking PBF to the ropes and pinning him there it'll be a matter of what Cotto can land once he is there...
He would need to take advantage of those moments.

If PBF thinks he can go to the ropes and just let Cotto shoot he is making a big mistake IMO.
Cotto is the type of fighter that can finish you off if he has you pinned.


A huge Cotto fan but my prediction is PBF via decision.

Mick, need your opinion. Who's got the better skill set and punching power, between Vic Ortiz and Miguel Cotto?

Originally Posted by Pavlik

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I think if Ortiz was somewhat succesful in taking PBF to the ropes and pinning him there it'll be a matter of what Cotto can land once he is there...
He would need to take advantage of those moments.

If PBF thinks he can go to the ropes and just let Cotto shoot he is making a big mistake IMO.
Cotto is the type of fighter that can finish you off if he has you pinned.


A huge Cotto fan but my prediction is PBF via decision.

Mick, need your opinion. Who's got the better skill set and punching power, between Vic Ortiz and Miguel Cotto?

Ortiz has the better skill set and more power. Cotto knows how to use his skills and power.