What do we have to look forward to? Arreola? A Haye comeback? Chısora? A Peter comeback? What about a Lennox comeback? Worse yet, a Holyfıeld comeback. Whatever happened to Tyson-Holyfıeld III? They both need the money anyway. Does anybody really want to see those Russıans anymore or that Polısh guy? I guess we'll have to put all our hopes ın Tyson Fry and that Scandınavıan guy whats hıs name.......Ingemaar Johanssen ıs ıt?

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

What do we have to look forward to? Arreola? A Haye comeback? Chısora? A Peter comeback? What about a Lennox comeback? Worse yet, a Holyfıeld comeback. Whatever happened to Tyson-Holyfıeld III? They both need the money anyway. Does anybody really want to see those Russıans anymore or that Polısh guy? I guess we'll have to put all our hopes ın Tyson Fry and that Scandınavıan guy whats hıs name.......Ingemaar Johanssen ıs ıt?

Tyson is taking his show from Vegas to Broadway so he really has no need to take it to the ring anymore, Holyfield is now starting to sell BBQ sauce , either way the HW division has been dead for a while now, not like the USA has anyone worth a damn apart from MAYBE Mitchell and Wilder and that's a huge maybe

The Klits are from Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Master

The Klits are from Ukraine.

who's said otherwise? lol

cause I'm sure he's referring to Valuev, Chagaev, Povetkin, and Boystov

just because there is no meaningful HWY from the USA, doesnt mean the division is dead.

Originally Posted by gest12645

just because there is no meaningful HWY from the USA, doesnt mean the division is dead.

didn't say that the division was dead because there isn't a meaningful HW from USA, it's because there isn't ANY meaningful HW apart from the Klitschko's, so then when they leave all we'll have left is the crap that couldn't get passed them in the first place, name ONE HW apart from the Klits who are worth a damn and could have beaten ANY TOP FIGHTER from any other era

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

What do we have to look forward to? Arreola? A Haye comeback? Chısora? A Peter comeback? What about a Lennox comeback? Worse yet, a Holyfıeld comeback. Whatever happened to Tyson-Holyfıeld III? They both need the money anyway. Does anybody really want to see those Russıans anymore or that Polısh guy? I guess we'll have to put all our hopes ın Tyson Fry and that Scandınavıan guy whats hıs name.......Ingemaar Johanssen ıs ıt?

David Tua swears he's got a couple of years left in him, also.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by gest12645

just because there is no meaningful HWY from the USA, doesnt mean the division is dead.

didn't say that the division was dead because there isn't a meaningful HW from USA, it's because there isn't ANY meaningful HW apart from the Klitschko's, so then when they leave all we'll have left is the crap that couldn't get passed them in the first place, name ONE HW apart from the Klits who are worth a damn and could have beaten ANY TOP FIGHTER from any other era

The thing is a lot of fighters, that are coming through in all weight divisions from the former Eastern Block. And not so many from USA,! in all weight divisions HW included, so this is a new chapter in boxing,
in all the weight divisions there great good and mediocre, champion's would the HW be poorer.
With out the Klits yes, but there is all way's some one round the corner, to replace them is there not
boxing has been all way's the same since time and memorial.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by Master

The Klits are from Ukraine.

who's said otherwise? lol

cause I'm sure he's referring to Valuev, Chagaev, Povetkin, and Boystov

No he referring to the Klits, the Russians you mention do not deserve a mention.

there will be a down period when the klits go maybe but shortly after the hw scene will rocket

Originally Posted by erics44

there will be a down period when the klits go maybe but shortly after the hw scene will rocket

with a flock of mediocre out of shape fighters , sorry but the division is as good as dead

It'll all work out and rise to the top. Way to much stock and emphasis has been put on the division historically, for me anyways. Change is a good thing. Years ago could you envision a Vitali who was quitting on his stool or a Wlad who was getting mugged like a rude panhandler coming to be as dominate as they are today? I mean Haye was written off as a loud mouth braggard who couldn't pull it off when it counted and make a statement. Well. Somethings change anyway

I enjoy heavyweight fights. The day they retire is the day things get interesting again. I want unpredictability. Not some lumbering asshole biding his tall-assed time.

Originally Posted by erics44

there will be a down period when the klits go maybe but shortly after the hw scene will rocket

Agreed. No one wants to square off against a brick wall. Folks are stalling their careers to keep from gettin' their necks broken.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by erics44

there will be a down period when the klits go maybe but shortly after the hw scene will rocket

with a flock of mediocre out of shape fighters , sorry but the division is as good as dead

yep the flock of mediocracy will flourish

its not just the tallent thats a problem its the controlling situation away from the ring thats a massive problem

to fight for the title fighters have to do everything the klits way and earn next to nothing for their trouble