This is on boxingscene, apparently Pavliks is one of three fighters who Froch could be fighting in November. I wouldn't mind this fight happening but I'd prefer the Kessler showdown.

That's how a champion rolls!!

I want Pavlik vs Froch. I like Kelly because he doesn't talk a lot of trash. I like Carl because he's so intense, everything is life or death with the guy. I think Froch wins, but Pavlik is a hard, sharp and accurate
puncher if he gets close enough. This is one of those, what if, fights for me. I want to see the fight not ask, what if.

I would love to see Pavlik get hammered into submission....come on Froch!

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because Froch is the champion and currently has several options. He would be doing Pavlik a favour to give him this payday. Pavlik has fought no-one since Martinez beat him.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because as a proud British fighter and the title holder he is probably sick to the back teeth of Americans thinking their homeland is the mecca of Boxing and that any title fight that means anything should be held there.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because as a proud British fighter and the title holder he is probably sick to the back teeth of Americans thinking their homeland is the mecca of Boxing and that any title fight that means anything should be held there.

Well to be honest the US has some great boxing venues, it's undeniable. I certainly don't begrudge Froch in wanting to defend his title (especially if it's an optional defense) in his back yard, that's part of the advantage you earn by being a champion.

Wembly is like our version of the cowboys stadium in terms of size!!!
O2 arena. British fighters with titles should defend in Britain.
On top of that froch has defended away from home a few times now so I think he should stay at home until Canada and if he wins that then fight Abraham for the wbo in a neutral venue and drag ward out of the states

The way Pavlik is talking he thinks he's ready and would jump at it.

The weird thing is he's sober now so not sure how he's thinking that. That leaky defence catching up? Who knows.

Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Wembly is like our version of the cowboys stadium in terms of size!!!
O2 arena. British fighters with titles should defend in Britain.
On top of that froch has defended away from home a few times now so I think he should stay at home until Canada and if he wins that then fight Abraham for the wbo in a neutral venue and drag ward out of the states

Of course, neither of those venues is in Nottingham. But in any case, he certainly gets to dictate terms to Pavlik who really hasn't done anything (recent) to earn a fight at this level.

I view this as pretty much a total mismatch at this point. But taking Pavlik as an "easy fight" while waiting for bigger fish is, per Froch's MO, much better than 99% of other fighters do for the fans. I'd still much prefer the Kessler fight though. (No interest in ever seeing Arthur Abraham fight again -- zero point in Froch dominating him again and doing so wouldn't give him any leverage to "drag" the division champ to Europe.)

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because Froch is the champion and currently has several options. He would be doing Pavlik a favour to give him this payday. Pavlik has fought no-one since Martinez beat him.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because as a proud British fighter and the title holder he is probably sick to the back teeth of Americans thinking their homeland is the mecca of Boxing and that any title fight that means anything should be held there.

Then Pavlik should get his passport ready and head for Nottingham.
IF..... he's serious about wanting to fight Froch and about winning another title.

I'd be surprised to see Froch fight Pavlik in November, but if it did happen i'd have to support Kelly, even if he gets his ass kicked.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I like Froch and would love to see him fight Pavlik.
But..... why the qualifier? (in Nottingham)

Just say you want to shut his mouth wherever.

Because as a proud British fighter and the title holder he is probably sick to the back teeth of Americans thinking their homeland is the mecca of Boxing and that any title fight that means anything should be held there.

I don't know about being the mecca of boxing anymore, but the U.S. does still get it's share of big/title fights. It has more to do with money, then anything else.

I personally think Pavlik wouldn't come to Nottingham to fight Froch. It's far too risky for his second coming and would he get paid enough to get beat? Unless Pavlik really does think Froch isnt that good and he is more than capable of coming to the UK to beat him I don't think he should be saying anything really. I hope he doesn't price himself out, and let's this fight happen.

I would love the Kessler fight to happen, but we haven't heard much about that recently and this would be a fight that would be an acceptable replacement for Froch. I just hope Pavlik really is up for the challenge and sees this as his genuine opportunity to get himself back to the top. Not just calling out Froch for the sake of it and Pavlik not backing himself up by coming to face the champion who is giving Pavlik a potential shot at his crown.

Hope it happens though, would be a great fight, but as i said before I would be concerned if Pavlik was willing to travel to get his ass beaten.