It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Roldan)

I can't figure out whether you are serious or a huge troll. You have NO idea what you are on about

Sure Duran hit Buchanan low, but it's not a foul unless the ref calls it. He also whipped the shit out of a Prime Ray Leonard, and I mean beat him like he stole something!

Wilfred Benitez would of gave Manny Pacquiao a boxing lesson that is all.

Originally Posted by ICB

Wilfred Benitez would of gave Manny Pacquiao a boxing lesson that is all.

I venture to guess that all of them would.

Can everyone please put frankenfart on ignore, what a dick.

Originally Posted by roberto duran legend

Can everyone please put frankenfart on ignore, what a dick.

Hahah, no way.. I didn't even know you could do that Cheers!

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Sims , Roldan)

Sims ? Robbie sims ? I must have missed that one.

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

It is time 2 remind n discuss a few facts about d fab 4 .

1) Wilfredo Benitez is extremely overrated . (1.1) D man probably lost twice (at least 1ce) 2 Bruce Curry . (1.2) IDK how credible his wins over Duran n Palomino r/were

2) Ray Leonard stopped drained (2.1) Hearns , (2.2) Benitez (2.3) Duran .
Neither of these guys fought @ 147 after their fights with him .
Even in d Hearns rematch , Leonard had him drained 2 a catchweight (164 or 165 i think) and still deserved 2 lose d verdict .
(2.3) I read that he admitted 2 have rematched Duran @ a time when he knew Duran would not have been in shape 2 fight .
(2.4) most importantly , not only his "victory" over an older eroded Hagler was not a win , it is even bullshit as a fight - he had thickly padded gloves , big ring and 12 rounds instead of 15 . Hagler would have stopped him under normal (for that time) circumstances even past his prime as he actually was going in against Leonard .
(2.5) Leonard was beaten by Hearns in their rematch but got a draw .

3) Hagler ruled over a weak middleweight division . Any1 who disagrees , answer this question : who was Hagler's best opponent @ MW ?

4) Duran (4.1) is overrated as a lightweight - he fouled vs Ken Buchanan and I think not just him and (4.2) against Davey Moore @ 154 , Moore came in with a severe injury in his jaw and Duran also thumbed him 2 win a really bullshit TKO and by this i don't mean that it was premature or anything , just cheating against n already injured (since b4 d fight even began) opponent .
His win over Barkley looks impressive both on paper and on film , but Barkley was probably drained and weakened against him .

5) Hearns was a clean fighter as far as I know but his losses exclude him from my top 80 p4p (even top 100) at least . He even showed his vulnerability in some of his (listed) victories (Kinchen , Sims , Roldan)

How early the fruit is falling this season? You know, when i want my dick pulled i much prefer a good looking chick doing it!

Yo frankie....... it seems no one here feels you know jack shit about boxing.
Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Sure Duran hit Buchanan low, but it's not a foul unless the ref calls it.

Want 2 share your deep appreciation 4 Luis Resto as well ? who caught him really ?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

He also whipped the shit out of a Prime Ray Leonard, and I mean beat him like he stole something!

this is not how i remember d last couple of rds of their 1st fight . But that win is still a good 1 4 him .

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Sure Duran hit Buchanan low, but it's not a foul unless the ref calls it.

Want 2 share your deep appreciation 4 Luis Resto as well ? who caught him really ?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

He also whipped the shit out of a Prime Ray Leonard, and I mean beat him like he stole something!

this is not how i remember d last couple of rds of their 1st fight . But that win is still a good 1 4 him .

of course it's not how you remember it, cause your mind doesn't register boxing as what it really is, FFS you know nothing about BOXING lol Duran smothered and mauled Leonard all night, when Sugar Ray tried to stand up to him he just got pounded on, that's exactly why he picked up the flurry run and dance strategy in the rematch

You forgot the bit about them all ducking McCallum (or you might not have done, I switched off)

Originally Posted by p4pking

I can't figure out whether you are serious or a huge troll. You have NO idea what you are on about