Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

[frankenfrank]

Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

Here R some more of my rankings :
h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
1. Nicolay Valuev
2. Oliver McCall
3. George Foreman
4. Vitali Klitschko
5. David Tua
6. Tony Tucker
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Ike Ibeabuchi
10. Larry Holmes

11. Mike Tyson
12. Riddick Bowe
13. Lamon Brewster
14. Ross Puritty
15. James Douglas
16. James Smith
17. Wladimir Klitschko
18. Joe Frazier
19. Joe Louis
20. Henry Akinwande


21. Jameel McCline
22. Chris Byrd
23. Ron Lyle
24. Earnie Shavers
25. Jimmy Young
26. David Haye
27. Sultan Ibragimov
28. Dominick Guinn
29. Joe Mesi
30. Michael Grant

31. George Chuvalo
32. Bob Cleroux
33. Tony Tubbs
34. Kirk Johnson
35. Larry Donald
36. James Tillis
37. Jesse Fergusson
38. Bert Cooper
39. Ray Mercer
40. Orlin Norris

41. Pinklon Thomas
42. Michael Dokes
43. Carl Williams



I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .

[frankenfrank]

p4p (based on achievements post 1980) .
"Achievements due 2 cheating / vs hampered opponents do not count in this list"

1. Mike McCallum
2. James Toney
3. Oliver McCall
4. David Tua
5. Muhammad Qawi
6. Jorge Fernando Castro
7. Orlin Norris
8. Chris Byrd
9. Reggie Johnson
10. Mike Hunter

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Juan LaPorte
13. Julio Cesar Chavez
14. Hector Camacho
15. Shane Mosley
16. Isufu Quartey
17. Lovermore Ndou
18. Jose Luis Ramirez
19. Pernell Whitaker
20. Dingaan Thobella

21. Orzubek Nazarov
22. Emanuel Pacquiao
23. Juan Manuel Marquez
24. Vince Phillips
25. Frankie Randall
26. Leo Gamez
27. Jesus Rojas
28. Santos Benigno Laciar
29. Bebis Rojas
30. Yober Ortega


31. Luis Mendoza
32. Carl Froch
33. Steve Collins
34. Chris Eubanks
35. Glen Johnson
36. Dwight Davison
37. Marlon Starling
38. Simon Brown
39. Jose Luis Lopez
40. Aaron Davis

41. Sanderline Williams
42. Michael Carbajal
43. Jose Luis Lopez
44. Johnny Tapia
45. Orlando Canizales
46. Paulie Ayala
47. Yuri Arbachakov
48. Melchor Cob Castro
49. Erik Morales
50. Azumah Nelson


51. Khaosai Galaxy
52. Sung-Kil Moon
53. Nobuhiro Ishida
54. Robbie Sims
55. Gerald McClellan
56. Sumbu Kalambay
57. Michael Nunn
58. Tony Thornton
59. Merqui Sosa
60. Herman Ngoudju

[AdamGB]

'the'

[BIG H]

Clearly a nutter!!

[Althugz]

I don't have a list but Nicolai Valuev is your all time fave heavy? ;-((

[Mark TKO]

Top 5 Worst Heavyweights of All Time

1. Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Lennox Lewis

[BIG H]

Top 5 Worst Heavyweights of All Time

1. Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Lennox Lewis

I'd add Foreman and Holmes to that

[THE THIRD MAN]

p4p (based on achievements post 1980) .
"Achievements due 2 cheating / vs hampered opponents do not count in this list"

1. Mike McCallum
2. James Toney
3. Oliver McCall
4. David Tua
5. Muhammad Qawi
6. Jorge Fernando Castro
7. Orlin Norris
8. Chris Byrd
9. Reggie Johnson
10. Mike Hunter

11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Juan LaPorte
13. Julio Cesar Chavez
14. Hector Camacho
15. Shane Mosley
16. Isufu Quartey
17. Lovermore Ndou
18. Jose Luis Ramirez
19. Pernell Whitaker
20. Dingaan Thobella

21. Orzubek Nazarov
22. Emanuel Pacquiao
23. Juan Manuel Marquez
24. Vince Phillips
25. Frankie Randall
26. Leo Gamez
27. Jesus Rojas
28. Santos Benigno Laciar
29. Bebis Rojas
30. Yober Ortega


31. Luis Mendoza
32. Carl Froch
33. Steve Collins
34. Chris Eubanks
35. Glen Johnson
36. Dwight Davison
37. Marlon Starling
38. Simon Brown
39. Jose Luis Lopez
40. Aaron Davis

41. Sanderline Williams
42. Michael Carbajal
43. Jose Luis Lopez
44. Johnny Tapia
45. Orlando Canizales
46. Paulie Ayala
47. Yuri Arbachakov
48. Melchor Cob Castro
49. Erik Morales
50. Azumah Nelson


51. Khaosai Galaxy
52. Sung-Kil Moon
53. Nobuhiro Ishida
54. Robbie Sims
55. Gerald McClellan
56. Sumbu Kalambay
57. Michael Nunn
58. Tony Thornton
59. Merqui Sosa
60. Herman Ngoudju

You're quite mad.

[Bobthepen]

Any list or boxing related?

I've just done my big shop, and can put that on here if you want?

[Beanz]

Any list or boxing related?

I've just done my big shop, and can put that on here if you want?

Cool, slap it up could be interesting reading compared to the opening post. Do you use the same random method? Choosing food just because nobody else likes it and avoiding staples like bread, eggs, veg and milk lest you be seen as just a casual foodie.

[Dia bando]

Any list or boxing related?

I've just done my big shop, and can put that on here if you want?

Cool, slap it up could be interesting reading compared to the opening post. Do you use the same random method? Choosing food just because nobody else likes it and avoiding staples like bread, eggs, veg and milk lest you be seen as just a casual foodie.

He's got brain damage, to go with the damage to his face.

[El Kabong]

The fuck? Nicolay Valuev

The only list regarding anything dealing with heavyweight boxers and "all-time" status that Valuev is at the top of the list for is "Largest Heavyweight Boxers of All-Time"....and I'm betting in his day Butterbean could beat him.

[frankenfrank]

The fuck? Nicolay Valuev

The only list regarding anything dealing with heavyweight boxers and "all-time" status that Valuev is at the top of the list for is "Largest Heavyweight Boxers of All-Time"....and I'm betting in his day Butterbean could beat him.

Valuev would have slapped Butterbean out / in2 submission like he did Monte Barrett .
Seemingly u never heard nor even watched d SNV doublepunch .
Valuev and Wladimir had 3 common opponents : Haye , McCline , Barrett .
Valuev did better at least against 2 of them .
Arguably vs all 3 .
Never stopped , never down as far as i know .
Valuev actually tried 2 keep his opponents' health and well being most of d time at least until he felt angered / hurt / threatened .

Valuev doesn't have his Schmelling & Markegiano / Puritty , Sanders & Brewster .
He doesn't even have a Byrd & Lewis .

Also , i believe that he would have been 2 tall 2b reached full force by most and 2 big and strong 4 most .

He is 1 of d very few it's hard 2 imagine getting stopped by any1 and i can c him stopping almost every1 if he fought 4eal .

Valuev was not 4eal because he did not want 2 keal .

[El Kabong]

Wlad fought Barrett & McCline when they were relevant and Wlad beat David Haye. Monte Barrett also tagged the crap out of Valuev, McCline didn't win because he tore up his knee. Valuev wanted no part of Wlad or Vitali both of whom would have knocked him out.

[Spicoli]

More out of a morbid curiousity than real interest, like driving slow past a multiple car wreck, but how do you actually determine achievement Mathmatical, names on a dart board? Very curious.