*I'll argue this..and stand by it... i believe the greatest heavyweight of all time is ... VITALI KLISTSKO.

*Vitali is the only heavyweight in history to never trail in a fight. How is that? it's not luck..when ur the best, crazy stats appear..this is one.

*Vitali could easily be undefeated. He was waaaaay ahead when the Byrd happened... the guy tore his rotator cuff...
*in his fight with Lennox... IMO, Lennox was out on his feet.

Vitali is 25 pounds heavier than big George Forman was when he was terrorizing the heavyweight div in the 70's. For those who think Frazier, Holmes, Marciano, Evander, could beat Vitali... i tell u this... and i can already tell this is a smart forum with smart fight fans in it... i tell u this... can u really see a guy who weighs under 215 pounds beating Vitali Klitsko... just picture that in ur head Vitali is a beast. He's a heavyweight's worst nightmare... a 250 pounds guy who can go 15 rounds.

LASTLY... if ur a fan of "rocky"like all true boxing fans are... when the "russian " character made, he was a force..bigger than life... a fiction of imagination... Well, i pick Vitai to beat him. Vitali looks bigger, stronger and would beat Drago as well...

bring it on... im ready for all comers!

Some fair points , but you are also saying Vitali could beat film actor Dolph Lundgrin who played the fictional Ivan Drago ?

Vitali would have been 2 much 4 Ali , Holmes and Louis but would have found prime Oliver McCall , prime George 4man 2 much 4 him . Now imagine what would have happened if he fought a trained and motivated SNV , d 1 that was never observed .

I do agree on Vitali > Ali , Holmes , Louis , "Dempsey" , Wladimir , Rocco and Jack Johnson , but McCall and 4man were real men , especially McCall .
I also believe that prime Bowe and Lewis could have posed a real test 4 Vitali . Lewis would have probably cheated like he did with Michael Grant . I wonder Y he didn't do d same with Vitali , but that was Lewis' last fight and he might have been 2 weak 2 repeat it .

@frankenfrank the moment anyone reads 4man the rest of your posts become blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. If you can't be bothered to type Fore, your attention span is poor.

You'd have thought such gushing fans of Vitali might be able to spell his surname correctly.

I like Vitali. Shame we'll never know how good he was. What's his best win?! Nothing tops giving a tough fight to an old, out of shape and uninterested Lewis in a fight were he ended up getting stopped.

As with his brother, you can't deny his dominance or that with his size he'd trouble anybody. But neither have had the moments in the ring or the opponents needed to claim that they're the greatest of all time. Just this era

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You know he has brother? Wladimir

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

Vitali would have been 2 much 4 Ali , Holmes and Louis but would have found prime Oliver McCall , prime George 4man 2 much 4 him . Now imagine what would have happened if he fought a trained and motivated SNV , d 1 that was never observed .

I do agree on Vitali > Ali , Holmes , Louis , "Dempsey" , Wladimir , Rocco and Jack Johnson , but McCall and 4man were real men , especially McCall .
I also believe that prime Bowe and Lewis could have posed a real test 4 Vitali . Lewis would have probably cheated like he did with Michael Grant . I wonder Y he didn't do d same with Vitali , but that was Lewis' last fight and he might have been 2 weak 2 repeat it .

Vitali is better than Ali,but not a prime McCall, Lordy Lordy,
i have heard it all now.

So Foreman would be too much for Vitali and Vitali would be too much for Ali but Ali could cope with Foreman's power but Ali couldn't cope with Vitali's strength but foreman was too much for vitali and - fuck I've gone cross eyed

this is the dumbest thread in history. the original poster needs to get a CT scan done on his brain immediately. he is only one step above drooling in an uncontrollable fashion.

Originally Posted by AdamGB

So Foreman would be too much for Vitali and Vitali would be too much for Ali but Ali could cope with Foreman's power but Ali couldn't cope with Vitali's strength but foreman was too much for vitali and - fuck I've gone cross eyed

D Zaire fight is d biggest scam in d history of d sport that i know of .
It's completely irrelevant in regards 2 both of 4man's and Ali's legacies .
i might post a thread about it in d future but u should have known by now .
ppl just don't get d role of d loosened ropes in it .
And then it did not even end with d ropes , d heat , d crooked referee who let Ali hold behind 4man's head , 4man was possibly drugged by Dick Saddler whom was 1 of his trainers , 4man was dehydrated prior 2d fight , everything and more was against him in that fight , and no rematch also 4 a reason .

Originally Posted by bigstinkybug

*I'll argue this..and stand by it... i believe the greatest heavyweight of all time is ... VITALI KLISTSKO.

*Vitali is the only heavyweight in history to never trail in a fight. How is that? it's not luck..when ur the best, crazy stats appear..this is one.

*Vitali could easily be undefeated. He was waaaaay ahead when the Byrd happened... the guy tore his rotator cuff...
*in his fight with Lennox... IMO, Lennox was out on his feet.

Vitali is 25 pounds heavier than big George Forman was when he was terrorizing the heavyweight div in the 70's. For those who think Frazier, Holmes, Marciano, Evander, could beat Vitali... i tell u this... and i can already tell this is a smart forum with smart fight fans in it... i tell u this... can u really see a guy who weighs under 215 pounds beating Vitali Klitsko... just picture that in ur head Vitali is a beast. He's a heavyweight's worst nightmare... a 250 pounds guy who can go 15 rounds.

LASTLY... if ur a fan of "rocky"like all true boxing fans are... when the "russian " character made, he was a force..bigger than life... a fiction of imagination... Well, i pick Vitai to beat him. Vitali looks bigger, stronger and would beat Drago as well...

bring it on... im ready for all comers!

Saw this last night and all I can say is YHG2BFKM. Vitali would not even rule Marciano's era.

Never done this before, but you type like a retard so you're on ignore.

No hard feelings, I find your opinions inconsequential and inoffensive... But you form sentences like a 10 year old writes a txt message, which hurts my head to read.

People might actually take your insane and illogical posts seriously if typing 'the' and 'fore'man didn't appear to be so taxing for you.

Originally Posted by captainanddew

this is the dumbest thread in history. the original poster needs to get a CT scan done on his brain immediately. he is only one step above drooling in an uncontrollable fashion.

*wow..just when i think i'm posting with Knowledgeable guys... i read this..or Vitali couldnt rule Marciano's era... etc,etc... r u kidding me? Vitali and Wlad have litterally ruled for 10 years or so... they beat undefeated prospects like a pro beats a novice fighter. Vitali has never..NEVER been behind in a fight! Can u imagine what Vitali would do to Marciano? Marciano weighed 185 pounds in his prime... Vitali would knock him into another dimension, Vitali vs a 185 fighter...PLEASE, now who 's posting insane?. Ali did a rope a dope on a lumbering neanderthal in George Forman..oh yea, Big George... "Big George",in his prime,would come into a fight with Vitali 25 pounds lighter... these guys r just too big.
The only guy to give Vitali a match was Lennox... Lennox had been training for a fight and was very interested..u guys r too smart to believe Lennox was untrained. U know what happened to an untrained ,uninterested Lennox lewis?... he gets KO'ed like he did in his only two previous loses... Lennox gave everything he had... and Vitali kept coming. If Lennox was soooo uninterested, why not a rematch? Lennox fears Vitali soooo much, he never found his way to a ring again after his fight with Vitali. THAT'S RESPECT.
I bring up Ivan Drago of the Rocky movie cuz Drago is supposed to be the unimaginable... he's the ultimate killing machine... he's big tall and has air... remind u of someone? the only thing different is Vitali is bigger and stronger.

Originally Posted by bigstinkybug

Originally Posted by captainanddew

this is the dumbest thread in history. the original poster needs to get a CT scan done on his brain immediately. he is only one step above drooling in an uncontrollable fashion.

*wow..just when i think i'm posting with Knowledgeable guys... i read this..or Vitali couldnt rule Marciano's era... etc,etc... r u kidding me? Vitali and Wlad have litterally ruled for 10 years or so... they beat undefeated prospects like a pro beats a novice fighter. Vitali has never..NEVER been behind in a fight! Can u imagine what Vitali would do to Marciano? Marciano weighed 185 pounds in his prime... Vitali would knock him into another dimension, Vitali vs a 185 fighter...PLEASE, now who 's posting insane?. Ali did a rope a dope on a lumbering neanderthal in George Forman..oh yea, Big George... "Big George",in his prime,would come into a fight with Vitali 25 pounds lighter... these guys r just too big.
The only guy to give Vitali a match was Lennox... Lennox had been training for a fight and was very interested..u guys r too smart to believe Lennox was untrained. U know what happened to an untrained ,uninterested Lennox lewis?... he gets KO'ed like he did in his only two previous loses... Lennox gave everything he had... and Vitali kept coming. If Lennox was soooo uninterested, why not a rematch? Lennox fears Vitali soooo much, he never found his way to a ring again after his fight with Vitali. THAT'S RESPECT.
I bring up Ivan Drago of the Rocky movie cuz Drago is supposed to be the unimaginable... he's the ultimate killing machine... he's big tall and has air... remind u of someone? the only thing different is Vitali is bigger and stronger.

How do you know Vitali is stronger than Drago?
Drago was scoring some very high scores on that hi-tech machine.