Thread: Marquez says 'no' to a fifth fight

Marquez says "I want a 50-50 split" to a fifth fight.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Who is Marquez going to fight? This is an obvious ploy to gain bargaining position. In recent times, Marquez has only fought two boxers where going into the fights, there were thoughts he might lose: Mayweather and Pacquiao. Other than that, it's been spoon-fed opposition. So, there is NO way Marquez will face Bradley, or any other tough competitor at 140-147. Nacho said as much in an interview (re: Bradley). If Marquez is going to risk losing, he's going to do it against Pacquiao.

Hardly the first name that comes to mind when considering boxers who are spoon fed opponents. He would beat Bradley comfortably. He should fight Garcia if he can meet the weight challenge. Pick up a few belts in the process.

Remove Floyd and Manny from his CV and in the last 5 years he faced: Michael Kastidis, Likar Ramos (Who?), Serhiy Fedchenko, and Juan Diaz.

Not a who's-who list of killers by any stretch. This is at a time where there have been many tougher options at or around his weight class. I get it, he's 39, and entitled to earn his money. Why take the risk of losing and throwing away a multi-million dollar pay day? So, I'm not saying what he is doing doesn't make perfect business sense. It's just, outside Floyd and Manny, Marquez's choice of opponents in the last five years could be a lot better. He's no Carl Froch when it comes to taking on the toughest options.

How can you be so sure he would beat Bradley comfortably? He didn't look amazing against Kastidis, or against Fedchenko, if you consider that it was Fedchenko. Other than Floyd, when was the last time he fought a boxer (in terms of style) in (or near) his prime? Chris John? You get my point.

By the way, this is by no means an argument that Marquez doesn't deserve the bargaining leverage against Pacquiao after annihilating him in their last fight.

Unless Marquez retires he will fight Manny again this is simply a ploy to get more money as he holds the cards at the moment. Let him have his moment in the limelight.

I expected this from JMM and his fans, no suprises here. For his sake he shouldn't take the fifth fight, its actually a smart and safe decision for JMM.

He basically admits, he wants no more of Pac, what a true mexican warrior!

he knocked that fool unconscious in the most decisive unquestionable unequivocal manner possible and you want him to fight pac again

its over ... no need for another fight .... Marquez won the series of fights with Pac and another installment for him makes little sense, especially considering his age.

Originally Posted by TysonBomb

he knocked that fool unconscious in the most decisive unquestionable unequivocal manner possible and you want him to fight pac again

its over ... no need for another fight .... Marquez won the series of fights with Pac and another installment for him makes little sense, especially considering his age.

It makes more sense than any other fight. It's by far the biggest money fight out there. Money is the reason he's continuing to fight. The fight will happen, he's just opening negotiations.

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

I expected this from JMM and his fans, no suprises here. For his sake he shouldn't take the fifth fight, its actually a smart and safe decision for JMM.

He basically admits, he wants no more of Pac, what a true mexican warrior!

We expect this from pactards too. He only has one way of redeeming himself and you guys must be desperate for it.

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

I expected this from JMM and his fans, no suprises here. For his sake he shouldn't take the fifth fight, its actually a smart and safe decision for JMM.

He basically admits, he wants no more of Pac, what a true mexican warrior!

Pacquiao only took Marquez on whenever he had no choice or when he figured he was over the hill, and payed for it every time he took on the fight, Knockdowns don't mean shit when your opponent just gets up dusts himself off and continues to kick your ass, Marquez should have W's in the other 3 bouts and just put an exclamation point on how much better he is than Pacquiao by putting Manny down and keeping him down, something your boy could never do to the older, smaller Mexican. Stop your whining and criticizing when Pacquiao is one of the biggest cherry pickers of the last decade.

JMM will fight Pac anyone else will be a let down. Everyone wants to know if it was a fluke.

"We want a 5th fight. If Pacquiao was not knocked out unconscious, he would have won."

-Pactard/PacFanBoy

Let me clarify my earlier statement, my point is not to pass judgment on whether Pacquiao deserves another Marquez fight. If Marquez wants to bypass another Pacquiao fight for a fight with one of the top junior welterweight, or welterweight fighters, then by all means, do it. It would be great because it would be the first time he's fought a top junior welterweight, or welterweight, not named Pacquiao or Mayweather. I just think this is all a smokescreen because Marquez has no other fight close to as lucrative out there and he won't face another top welterweight. I recall saying before Pacquiao-Marquez III, when people were deriding Pacquiao's choice of opponent in Marquez, that Marquez just has Pacquiao's number. The fourth fight proved it. I remained unconvinced that Marquez would dominate other top junior welterweights/welterweights, and until we see him against one, we'll never know.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Let me clarify my earlier statement, my point is not to pass judgment on whether Pacquiao deserves another Marquez fight. If Marquez wants to bypass another Pacquiao fight for a fight with one of the top junior welterweight, or welterweight fighters, then by all means, do it. It would be great because it would be the first time he's fought a top junior welterweight, or welterweight, not named Pacquiao or Mayweather. I just think this is all a smokescreen because Marquez has no other fight close to as lucrative out there and he won't face another top welterweight. I recall saying before Pacquiao-Marquez III, when people were deriding Pacquiao's choice of opponent in Marquez, that Marquez just has Pacquiao's number. The fourth fight proved it. I remained unconvinced that Marquez would dominate other top junior welterweights/welterweights, and until we see him against one, we'll never know.

agree to a point, but just stylistically I think he could handle Bradley, Tim's straight forward style and lack of power and output in a way is perfect for Marquez, he would probably just counter and out hustle Bradley to a boring UD, but get what you're trying to say

Marquez should walk away from the sport.

Roy jones should have left after ruiz.
Benn should have left after Gman.

How many times or chances does a proffesional boxer get to have a win in KO fashion that was timed so perfect it should be framed in a picture.

Walk away marquez and have the pefect finish that legends chavez or barrera never had.

Marquez beat the goddamn guy 3 times in my view, and 4 times in the view of others, and now he scored the biggest, most decisive win you possibly could over the guy. Time to close that chapter of his career and move on to something else.

Originally Posted by Peter Som

I feel this is the logical decision for Marquez to make in terms of solidifying his legacy in good standing. But of course, feelings may change and he may except a 5th fight after all, whether it'd be for the money or for pride.

Thoughts?

Juan Manuel Marquez Says He Won't Fight Manny Pacquiao a 5th Time | Bleacher Report

Well he sorta owes pac-man at least 1 rematch.