Thread: No one else even a tiny bit suspicious about Hopkins?

He is 48 and yes he doesnt fight a dynamic style that looks like he could be on something but did Toney look like he was on them?

A year ago no one would have a bad word said against Lance Armstrong, if you did you were jealous and a hater. He has admitted now to using very suffisticated methods for years. Why would it be out of the realms of possibility for someone like Hopkins?

We have learnt with boxing when something looks too good to be true it generally turns out that way.

There was the time that Pascal asked him to take a test and Hopkins got more riled than I think we have ever seen him but gave no answer. Hopkins Pascal II press conference steroids issue and what they have to say after. - YouTube

Also, one of the best and simplest methods to test for any substances amd is like a diary depending on how long is hair testing and Bernard shaves his head. They use hair testing commonly for new recruits in the police and other job applications but have never cottoned on in boxing. Now could this he because it is too comprehensive and they would prefer the smoke screen of pathetic urine testing?

I cant help but be suspicious of Hopkins. Years ago at middle weight he was losing it against the likes of Taylor but now years later and at a higher weight his work rate has improved?

Hopkins threw and landed more against Cloud than he did in the Taylor rematch over 7 years ago! Even against Dawson he threw more and against Calzaghe he threw more still!

it wouldnt suprise me if he is

then again if you picked the top 10 lb4lb boxers in the world and told me 9 of them were on peds that wouldnt suprise me either

you make some good points

Martinez has got bigger, faster stringer with age, i wonder what type of testing that fella takes

His body isn't cut like it use to be. He's soft in the middle. He hasn't scored a knock out in almost 10 muthafukkin years. He throws like 20 punches a round cuz he'll gas if he doesn't pace himself. And he still provides himself a bunch of rest stops with his clinching and holding. If he's taking anything what exactly is it doing for him?

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

His body isn't cut like it use to be. He's soft in the middle. He hasn't scored a knock out in almost 10 muthafukkin years. He throws like 20 punches a round cuz he'll gas if he doesn't pace himself. And he still provides himself a bunch of rest stops with his clinching and holding. If he's taking anything what exactly is it doing for him?

He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?

Like I said, look at James Toney!

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

His body isn't cut like it use to be. He's soft in the middle. He hasn't scored a knock out in almost 10 muthafukkin years. He throws like 20 punches a round cuz he'll gas if he doesn't pace himself. And he still provides himself a bunch of rest stops with his clinching and holding. If he's taking anything what exactly is it doing for him?

He may not be cut like he used to be but how do you explain a 48 year old throwing more punches against stronger world champs than he was fighting nearly 8 years ago?

Like I said, look at James Toney!

You explain to me how a man on "sophisticated steroid" hasn't scored a knockout for ten years.

It is very difficult to sit through a Hopkins fight. There was more action in the Press conference link that you provided @ross and it was definitely more entertaining. I don't think his lack of hair has anything to do with anything. He fights like an Old man not a young man so I don't think he is the most obvious user of P.E.D's if he is using, but like Eric it would not surprise me.

Look he takes care of himself completely all the time, most boxers between fights eat and drink loads of shit. Hopkins has always been renowned for that. He just fights a perfect old man fight picking off mistakes and smothering and taking breathers. I really dont think hes taking anything my old coaxh was 50 and like hopkins he really took care of himself he had a better body than me and was still giving young pros and champions trouble in the ring.

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

Originally Posted by ross

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

His tactics are different?
He wasn't training right?

There's any reasons.

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

His tactics are different?
He wasn't training right?

There's any reasons.

All bullshit.

You do not get better stamina or a better work rate than when you were in your 30s at forty fucking eight!

Read back what you said and then think, "oh yeah he is fucking 48"

Name another sport where someone has been able to do more work as they get older, let alone up to 48!

All the people saying "he lives a spartan lifestyle, doesnt drink or smoke and keeps himself in shape" will all be the same people rubbishing the rumours about Lance Armstrong for years. Naive...

I would be surprised if he wasn't using something, at the very least recieving TRT (which would obviously be perfectly legal for a guy his age).

But seriously, even if Bhop is on every PED under the sun, the fact that he's having such a high level of success at 48 is still completely INSANE. There are a ton of guys who use steroids and other PED's and don't have that kind of staying power.

Regardless of what he's using, the guy is a freak of nature.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

His tactics are different?
He wasn't training right?

There's any reasons.

All bullshit.

You do not get better stamina or a better work rate than when you were in your 30s at forty fucking eight!

Read back what you said and then think, "oh yeah he is fucking 48"

Name another sport where someone has been able to do more work as they get older, let alone up to 48!

All the people saying "he lives a spartan lifestyle, doesnt drink or smoke and keeps himself in shape" will all be the same people rubbishing the rumours about Lance Armstrong for years. Naive...

Look at formanes return. He was smarter and he went the distance with an inform and in prime unbeaten Holyfield.

He never threw more punches but still.

I think you're another idiot tbh. PEDS PEDS PEDS.

1stly it is none of your business.
2ndly who gives a shit?

Like you say he's 48. So they've had a LONG time to catch him.

Jesus, get over it. I don't even like Hopkins, I hope he does get found out to be using them, but until then, stfu and watch the fights.

I suspected that he is incredibly good at picking the right opponents.

Seriously, he should have no punch resitance, his kness and shoulders should be completely shot and should be lucky to be fighting 6 rounds. Absolute freek.

There is some unknown element to his success.

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

His tactics are different?
He wasn't training right?

There's any reasons.

All bullshit.

You do not get better stamina or a better work rate than when you were in your 30s at forty fucking eight!

Read back what you said and then think, "oh yeah he is fucking 48"

Name another sport where someone has been able to do more work as they get older, let alone up to 48!

All the people saying "he lives a spartan lifestyle, doesnt drink or smoke and keeps himself in shape" will all be the same people rubbishing the rumours about Lance Armstrong for years. Naive...

Look at formanes return. He was smarter and he went the distance with an inform and in prime unbeaten Holyfield.

He never threw more punches but still.

I think you're another idiot tbh. PEDS PEDS PEDS.

1stly it is none of your business.
2ndly who gives a shit?

Like you say he's 48. So they've had a LONG time to catch him.

Jesus, get over it. I don't even like Hopkins, I hope he does get found out to be using them, but until then, stfu and watch the fights.

Haha! I do t want to upset you too much sissy knickers or you might "literally tightened up like I was going to cry" again....

No, Foreman never threw more punches than he did and Foremans thing was k ock out some bums or fight better opposition and just have the shit kicked out of you and take it while trying to land a single big shot. Whereas Hopkins is on a genuine world level and throwing more punches per fight now than he was 8 years ago as a middleweight.

Dont tighten up or cry

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Vendettos

Originally Posted by ross

Explain how he is now throwing more punches than he was as a middlewieght 8 years ago?

His tactics are different?
He wasn't training right?

There's any reasons.

All bullshit.

You do not get better stamina or a better work rate than when you were in your 30s at forty fucking eight!

Read back what you said and then think, "oh yeah he is fucking 48"

Name another sport where someone has been able to do more work as they get older, let alone up to 48!

All the people saying "he lives a spartan lifestyle, doesnt drink or smoke and keeps himself in shape" will all be the same people rubbishing the rumours about Lance Armstrong for years. Naive...

Look at formanes return. He was smarter and he went the distance with an inform and in prime unbeaten Holyfield.

He never threw more punches but still.

I think you're another idiot tbh. PEDS PEDS PEDS.

1stly it is none of your business.
2ndly who gives a shit?

Like you say he's 48. So they've had a LONG time to catch him.

Jesus, get over it. I don't even like Hopkins, I hope he does get found out to be using them, but until then, stfu and watch the fights.

Haha! I do t want to upset you too much sissy knickers or you might "literally tightened up like I was going to cry" again....

No, Foreman never threw more punches than he did and Foremans thing was k ock out some bums or fight better opposition and just have the shit kicked out of you and take it while trying to land a single big shot. Whereas Hopkins is on a genuine world level and throwing more punches per fight now than he was 8 years ago as a middleweight.

Dont tighten up or cry

David Price was so unlucky.

But you don't have what it takes to make me cry princess