Thread: Catchweights are becoming an easy copout.

Make the weight! You lazy bums! It's only 7 pounds between weight divisions.
The first 5 or 6 times it happened it was like... ok... let's do it so the fight can be made.
But it's becoming ridiculous now.
If you can't make the weight, don't fight at that division. Simple as.

Catchweight fights have been common throughout the history of boxing. It's nothing new.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Make the weight! You lazy bums! It's only 7 pounds between weight divisions.
The first 5 or 6 times it happened it was like... ok... let's do it so the fight can be made.
But it's becoming ridiculous now.
If you can't make the weight, don't fight at that division. Simple as.

Agreed. There have been the odd sprinklings of this late in the 20th century but nothing like you see today. This 141 thing for the Peterson fight is downright fraud. In your face fraud I might add.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Make the weight! You lazy bums! It's only 7 pounds between weight divisions.
The first 5 or 6 times it happened it was like... ok... let's do it so the fight can be made.
But it's becoming ridiculous now.
If you can't make the weight, don't fight at that division. Simple as.

Agreed. There have been the odd sprinklings of this late in the 20th century but nothing like you see today. This 141 thing for the Peterson fight is downright fraud. In your face fraud I might add.

Exactly. It seems a hell of a lot more prevalent now.
And we, the ever-accepting boxing fan public, don't really care, as long as they give us the good fights we yearn for.
But why have weight divisions, then?

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Make the weight! You lazy bums! It's only 7 pounds between weight divisions.
The first 5 or 6 times it happened it was like... ok... let's do it so the fight can be made.
But it's becoming ridiculous now.
If you can't make the weight, don't fight at that division. Simple as.

Agreed. There have been the odd sprinklings of this late in the 20th century but nothing like you see today. This 141 thing for the Peterson fight is downright fraud. In your face fraud I might add.

Exactly. It seems a hell of a lot more prevalent now.
And we, the ever-accepting boxing fan public, don't really care, as long as they give us the good fights we yearn for.
But why have weight divisions, then?

They should just go back to the original eight. I'm sure when Greb fought Tunney outside once when he chubbed out he was nowhere near 175. He showed up at his best weight. They need to close divisions not broaden them. On second thought, the Wba and Wbc have more then double the belts as there are divisions. So lets just have 34 divisions instead of 17 lol.

It's really not a matter of fighters not being able to make the weight so much anymore. The 1 lb really shines a light on a steaming pile of El heffe and company trying to have their cake and eat it too.

If a fight of this nature and caliber doesn't warrant the Champion to meet his obligations and those in power to treat it as such, just cut the crap and dump that POS in the trash can Bowe style. It's a slap in the face to fans that the rankings (plans) stay the same regardless of outcome and expect us to eat up the next "title fight that actually counts" and forget...oh yeh, THAT guy lost btw. It's fucking parlor tricks man, I understand the bad weather in boxing but fuckin A son, don't piss in my boots and blame it on the rain. Fans are stubborn but we're not fookin retarded.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Catchweight fights have been common throughout the history of boxing. It's nothing new.

Yes they have been. 1904. Lightweight Joe Gans and welterweight Joe Walcott (Barbados. not Jersey) met at a catchweight of 138. Barney Ross and Jimmy McLarnin was at a catchweight of 143. Henry Armstrong was in a couple of catchweight fights. They always been around. I don't know why muthafuukas all of a sudden wanna complain about it. I don't mind catchweight fights. It helps make some fights that wouldn't normally take place. It's a risk for both fighters. Nobody is forcing fighters to fight at a catchweight. They agree to it. If I remember correctly all 3 Gatti-Ward fights were at a catchweight. Does anybody remember that? No. Because nobody cried about it. It wasn't important. People just remember the fights

Please 141, GMAFB.

Nobody is suggesting that catch weights did not happen and I can go cherry pick a few from 1865 through the early part of the 20th century.. Gans also fought Langford with no catchweight and Armstrong challenged Ross and weighed in under lightweight. It was the exception then not the norm. Big difference and nobody pulled that shit to void title fights. Today every other week there is a catchweight. Make the weight obligated by that strap you ride or GTFO of the division.

Ftr I don't mind the odd catch weight fight as long as a title is not involved or dismissed.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Ftr I don't mind the odd catch weight fight as long as a title is not involved or dismissed.

Peterson vs Matthysse is not a title fight. So what the fuck are you crying about? Who gives a fuck if Peterson's paper IBF title (that should of been stripped) and Matthysse WBC Interim title (why he even has an interim title I have no fucking idea) is not on the line. Those belts are fucking meaningless anyway. They need to be dismissed. Muthafukkas can't complain about the organizations and than bitch that there titles are not on the line. It's fucking stupid

i'm excited for the peterson matthysse fight.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

i'm excited for the peterson matthysse fight.

It's a good match up. Who gives a fuck if there worthless titles are not on the line?

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

i'm excited for the peterson matthysse fight.

It's a good match up. Who gives a fuck if there worthless titles are not on the line?

yup!!!!

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I have mine. Catchweights cheapen the significance of weight divisions. Why have them? Do away with them altogether and just have fighters meet at prearranged weights. A professional fighter is perfectly capable of making the weight given sufficient time and preparation. That's what training camps are for. A gap of 7 pounds between divisions isn't a world of difference... it's not like the divisions are 20 pounds apart. They're doing it more now, or at least it's being publicized more now than in the past... and that's all there is to it.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I have mine. Catchweights cheapen the significance of weight divisions. Why have them? Do away with them altogether and just have fighters meet at prearranged weights. A professional fighter is perfectly capable of making the weight given sufficient time and preparation. That's what training camps are for. A gap of 7 pounds between divisions isn't a world of difference... it's not like the divisions are 20 pounds apart. They're doing it more now, or at least it's being publicized more now than in the past... and that's all there is to it.

Lol exactly. Just get rid of all the bullshit paper titles and those paper tigers that covet them.