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    Default In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    In my eyes, the reason Mayweather vs. Pacquiao didn't get made is because of Bob Arum. I think if anyone doubts that by calling Floyd a ducker is an idiot at this point. Floyd taking a fight with Alvarez to me tells the world that Arum didn't want to put his boy in there with Mayweather. I have so much respect for Floyd in taking this one as it is high risk, and he could have gone the easy route with a Khan fight.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    The problem was one fighter not wanting the blood testing. Case close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    The problem was one fighter not wanting the blood testing. Case close
    That was one of the many reasons.
    Blood test and the Money percentage to each fighter but overall it has always been floyd former boss which is the former corrupt lawyer bob arum.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    You beat me to this. I'm not going to say it was Arum alone that didn't make Pacquaio- Mayweather happen. I just think it's indicative of how deep the divide between Top Ranking and Golden Boy really is. That was the biggest money fight in boxing history and it wasn't made. As great as this bout is for boxing, it could be a cold winter and thats not good. They need to get over their shit and make fights.
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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    The problem was one fighter not wanting the blood testing. Case close
    Yeah but some fans claim Mayweather ducked Margarito & Cotto. Yet he fought Cotto as soon as he left Arum. Really, I think it is proven that Arum is the reason we don't get the best fights.
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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You beat me to this. I'm not going to say it was Arum alone that didn't make Pacquaio- Mayweather happen. I just think it's indicative of how deep the divide between Top Ranking and Golden Boy really is. That was the biggest money fight in boxing history and it wasn't made. As great as this bout is for boxing, it could be a cold winter and thats not good. They need to get over their shit and make fights.
    Well looking at it, Top Rank won't have much of a choice soon. The talent pool is with Golden Boy, and soon Arum will be forced to rely on rematches to make decent dough.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Look how big time promotion has played out since the will-they-won't-they situation a few years ago. Golden Boy have signed almost every meaningful fighter around the 140-147 weight classes. They're definitely the biggest promotional outfit in America right now. Top Rank would have been in an even worse position when it comes to making meaningful fights if Manny had fought Floyd and lost comprehensively. But because they didn't fight Arum has been able to match Manny against all his Top Rank guys and keep the big paydays coming for his firm. If Manny had fought and lost to Floyd three or more years ago Arum may have been well on the road to Don King land by now. There's no way Arum wanted that fight to happen.
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    Bob arum has billions.
    He was always the reason but it doesnt matter..marquez made everyone wake up and they jumped to the canelo steamtrain.

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    If Floyd hadn't left Arum we would have never got Oscar-Floyd, Arum basically admitted he doesn't like his fighters to take risks when he said Cotto shouldn't have fought Trout, think about this Arum is the reason we are being robbed of Mares, Santa Cruz, Rigo, Ponce, Gamboa, Russell, Mikeyand Donaire all mixing it up.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Floyd Mayweather didn't want to do business with Bob Arum either. It's a two way street. I think there's a lot of smoke and mirrors here on both sides. I really have a hard time believing Golden Boy is any different than Top Rank.

    At the end of the day, Floyd wouldn't do business with Bob Arum, and Bob Arum wouldn't do business with Floyd. That's the bottom line.

    Maybe I've turned cynical, but I blame both parties.
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    Doesn't Arum owe Floyd and Oscar a bunch of money? If some scumbag promoter robbed me of a bunch of money and I attained the position where I can make money without them... I would leave them and make sure they never made money from me again. But I'd also let him know how much money I'm making without him and demonstrate it by walking away from the biggest grossing fight of all time and then sign a record breaking multi fight contract and be the highest paid athlete year in and year out without them.

    That's the big fuck you to bob from Floyd and Oscar.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Both parties are to blame and it will go down in history as perhaps the biggest blunder of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Both parties are to blame and it will go down in history as perhaps the biggest blunder of all time.
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    I have no idea what the problem is between TopRank and GoldenBoy but there is some deep seated hatred there.
    Letting a mega fight get away is unbelievable, but they did.

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    Default Re: In my eyes, Mayweather-Alvarez proves Arum was the problem

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    In my eyes, the reason Mayweather vs. Pacquiao didn't get made is because of Bob Arum. I think if anyone doubts that by calling Floyd a ducker is an idiot at this point. Floyd taking a fight with Alvarez to me tells the world that Arum didn't want to put his boy in there with Mayweather. I have so much respect for Floyd in taking this one as it is high risk, and he could have gone the easy route with a Khan fight.
    This is the same Floyd that has ignored the fight for the past 12 months and forced Canelo to move his fight with Trout from his undercard because Floyd was going back on a promise to face him next!!!

    People should thank Guerreo for this fight....if the numbers and losses on that fight for the network hadn't been so fucked up Floyd wouldn't have had his hand rammed up his back to make this happen!
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