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Default Re: Can one really be ranked P4P when you demand catch weights?

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Just wondering, because they have manny number one, but most of the time the fighters that have been ranked number 1 have gone to other's divisions and beaten them. RJJ, PERNELL, FLOYD, SHANE. Not once did either of them demand a catch weight.

Hey these guys don't have to fight Pac. If they want to stay at the weight that is comfortable for them, let them fight someone else. No one is holding a gun to their heads.
What I find incredible about this is that less than two years ago if anyone speculated that Manny could move up to knockout Oscar De La Hoya, destroy Ricky Hatton and then go and fight Miguel Cotto everyone would say that person was FUCKING INSANE!!!!

Yet now these same people are now moaning because Manny doesn't want to move up to 147 lbs to face Cotto and instead wants the fight at 143-144

Let me ask people this, if Bernard Hopkins chose to fight David Haye at an agreed weight limit of 210lbs would people be moaning that BHop was a coward in forcing Haye to shed pounds? (actually some probably would ) but if they did they would be fucking idiots.

Haye vs Hopkins at 210-215 lbs would be a great matchup and a tremendous fight we'd all love to see, at heavyweight it simply couldn't happen as Hopkins would be giving up too much but if a catchweight allows for a potentially great fight to happen that otherwise wouldn't then let's use the flexibility of catchweights.

It's just about making weight issues work FOR us and not AGAINST us.

It's an interesting universal human trait for mankind to create traditions, rituals, beaurocracies and rules to help mankind and then for us to lose sight of why they were created in the first place and elevate the particular ritual, law, tradition, rule etc above the reason it was enacted in the first place.

Jesus was full of condemnation for the blindness of the Pharisees who did this, and we all see it in religion, people totally devoted to ritual and religious practice but completely missing the true meaning of why they are carrying these out in the first place. The rituals and rites become that persons true God.

That's what these opposing a catchweight are doing, using the weight divisions, which were created to help make fights between people of different weights, now to actually be a reason for stopping a fight taking place, its lunacy.
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