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Old 07-03-2009, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Can one really be ranked P4P when you demand catch weights?

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catchweights have nothing to do with p4p rankings.

I have no problem with fighters that agree with each other fighting at whatever weight. As brought up before my only problem is the title that's on the line.
Have always thought the p4p a media frenzy...a tag line for quick consumption that is extremely subjective.A dominate and defending fighter meeting his biggest challenges in a given division is what we need. Shite....people focus on a catch weight prior to a bout but how about the actual "unofficial' weight of each fighter once the bell rings.A catch weight too and fro.

Why does it really matter what weight the fight is at, what belt is on the line, what division (or not) that the fight is being held?

What's important is that the best fight each other.

If Manny were to fight Floyd, Shane or Miguel at a catch weight I don't care less. All I care about is that they fight at the best weight that will give us the best fight!

If Manny is too small at 147 let them fight at 143, I don't care if he's fighting for a world title really, it doesn't make the fight any less important, or more importantly entertaining, and that ultimately is all I care about.
Thats where I differ on exactly what the best fight possible is exactly.I think we are getting way to caught up in the rush and the almost manufacturing of 'the best fighting the best' boosted by the mythical p4p throne.History is littered with guys meeting outside of their 'natural' weight classes but as of late it is overdone and almost has a circus type of feel.The haggling and splitting hairs over the current catch weight BS.If it is that much of a parlor game and problem for camps/fighters to agree....it may just be an indicator that some proposed fights are not meant to be....or simply that the warranted concerns are not worth it to some fighters.I'm a firm believer in guys taking care of the legitimate threats within a respected weight range in division first and foremost.Years later if you want to be called the best middleweight etc.....you had better of contested with the best to be found in the era prior to division leaping for mega-ultra-super-dooper name attractions.

I'll take the bait as coincidentally the name missing from Mannys proposed threats you mentioned is that of the man who has given him his toughest scraps and his most heated rival recently...Marquez.I might be in the minority...but that is the fight that needs to happen if its close competitive fan friendly and entertaining matches that I'm looking for.Far more than a Oscar/Pacquioa fight and I believe far more than a Marquez/Mayweather fight.

Last edited by Spicoli : 07-04-2009 at 12:06 AM.