Thread: Earnie Shavers: You Would Not Have Heard Of The Klits In My Day

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

aT THIS TIME IN HIS CAREER sHAVERS HAD 58 WINS WITH 56 KNOCKOUTS.

I will say that again: 58 wins with 56 KNOCKOUTS.

And he went on to lose to Tex Cobb...your point sir?

Lyle, you Moonbat, do you know how old Shavers was in that Cobb fight? It took place on 8-22-1980 and Mr. Black Destroyer was born on:

Earnie Shavers 1945-08-13 6′ 0″ / 183cm won 74 (KO 69) + lost 11 (KO 5) + drawn 1

rounds boxed 367 KO% 78.4

some people give the klits too much love. i will admit that i have a higher opinion on them than i used to but i say again, there was a reason their dominance happened once the batch of HWs retired during the lewis era. its because there were decent HWs at that time. and im not saying good HWs but decent ones. now, there are only terrible HWs.

again, shavers isnt great but if wlad had to fight the guys that shavers fought, he would have been irrelevant. i honestly think that the klit brothers wouldnt have been known by even most boxing fans nowadays.

fighting within the rules Ernie is probably right

wlad would be fringe today fighting within the rules tho

Originally Posted by erics44

fighting within the rules Ernie is probably right

wlad would be fringe today fighting within the rules tho

Big earnie knocks em all out cold.

Originally Posted by greynotsoold

He is dead right. Lamont Brewster knocked out Wlad. Before emmanuel got a hold of him, he was just a big tall guy with suspect stamina and chin. .

I got a pretty tough internet chin for the shots I took by claiming an old school Steward brought a new wrinkle or two to the younger brother.

LOL Good old Earnie Shaver's..

Of all the delusional nostalgist boxers, trainers and "experts", Shavers has to rank right up there among the worst.

Shavers would be considered a bit of a featherfist today ironically.

And would not be able to compete as a professional boxer in either Heavyweight OR Cruiserweight because he had no skills.

Shaver was a cruiser cruncher and bum buster exclusively!

His ONLY win ever in 90 fights vs a real HW with a good record was vs Ken Norton, a chinless punch weak boxer with no pedigree who was himself a bum buster.

This is absolutely pathetic!

A guy stopped by Jerry Quarry has no place in the ring with Tyson, Foreman or either Klitschko.

Liston vs Shavers would have been a decent fight. Battle of the bums! LOL

Shaver is a boxer who the OTNB HAVE to defend at all costs as a decent opponent, because he beat Ali, if Shaver's falls, the whole house of cards from the OTNB deck falls.

Shavers is a living proof of how the golden era was one of the weakest in history.

Originally Posted by Max Power

LOL Good old Earnie Shaver's..

Of all the delusional nostalgist boxers, trainers and "experts", Shavers has to rank right up there among the worst.

Shavers would be considered a bit of a featherfist today ironically.

And would not be able to compete as a professional boxer in either Heavyweight OR Cruiserweight because he had no skills.

Shaver was a cruiser cruncher and bum buster exclusively!

His ONLY win ever in 90 fights vs a real HW with a good record was vs Ken Norton, a chinless punch weak boxer with no pedigree who was himself a bum buster.

This is absolutely pathetic!

A guy stopped by Jerry Quarry has no place in the ring with Tyson, Foreman or either Klitschko.

Liston vs Shavers would have been a decent fight. Battle of the bums! LOL

Shaver is a boxer who the OTNB HAVE to defend at all costs as a decent opponent, because he beat Ali, if Shaver's falls, the whole house of cards from the OTNB deck falls.

Shavers is a living proof of how the golden era was one of the weakest in history.

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Earnie’s top-three heavyweight KO artists:

“The three hardest punching heavyweights ever are: me, Ron Lyle and George Foreman. We were the three hardest ever.”

How Shavers would have done Vs. Iron Mike:

“I believe I would have KO’d Tyson. But Tyson, he would never have wanted any part of me. Because of Cus [D’Amato] – he warned Tyson about hard hitters like myself. He [Cus] wouldn’t have let him take such a fight.”

How Shavers would have done Vs. Foreman and Liston:

“Foreman, he never wanted to fight me either. I’d have stopped him in around four-rounds. And I believe I’d have KO’d Liston as well, he was too old and slow.”

Shavers Vs. the Klitschkos:

“I’ve seen a lot of their fights, and they’re okay. But in my opinion, if they had been around in my day, you would not have even heard of them. Myself, I’d have worked inside, then attacked the body first, to bring the hands down, and then I’d have gone to the head. I’d have landed shots to the heart, a left hook to the kidney, and then shot a right hand to the head. Then you’d have heard ‘Timbeeerrr!! I loved facing big, slow guys like that. I wouldn’t have had any problems with them. In fact, it’s not just me [who would have beaten the Klitschkos], guys like Ali, Holmes and Foreman, along with myself, we’d all have been way too much for the Klitschkos.”

Shavers’ own favourite KO:

“My personal favourite KO that I scored is the one I got over Jimmy Young in 1973. He was a real slick fighter, but I hit Jimmy clean and stopped him in the 3rd-round. That was the first time I fought him. The KO win of mine that really got me into the big time was my KO of Jimmy Ellis (also in 1973).”

Shavers on the best fighter he ever went in with:

“Ali was the best fighter I faced, hands down. He was better than Holmes and all the other guys. I’m grateful that I had the chance to fight great guys like Ali and Holmes. I realise I was part of a golden era.”

Shavers on his toughest pro fight:

“Roy Tiger Williams was a real tough guy. He was so durable, and he was a mean guy. He was so tough and relentless. I was down and hurt in the tenth-round of that fight but I stopped him that same round. That was such a hard fight for me.”

Shavers’ biggest career regret:

“I wish I could fight the second Larry Holmes fight all over again. In the 7th-round when I had him down and hurt, I wasted too many punches trying to finish him. I got excited and I got tired and he recovered. If I could do that fight over again I’d have been more patient and not gotten excited. I know I had him!”

Shavers on the hardest-ever puncher Pound-for-Pound (aside from himself):

“I’d say Tommy Hearns, he had brutal punching power! Then my old trainer, Archie Moore; he was so smart, and such a dangerous puncher. Archie really knew how to place his punches.”

same old "Ya old must have forgot" and "A judge seeks glory for himself"

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

He has a very high opinion of himself , for someone who was KOED by Jerry Quarry, he was a BIG puncher in his day.
Are you trying to tell me Wlad doesn't hit with as much power ? of course he does , he is massive in comparison to someone like Shavers , I think Earnie has taken to many shots to the chin.

Can you imagine Earnie landing that big bomb on Wlad's fragile jaw TIMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by C.J.Rock

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

He has a very high opinion of himself , for someone who was KOED by Jerry Quarry, he was a BIG puncher in his day.
Are you trying to tell me Wlad doesn't hit with as much power ? of course he does , he is massive in comparison to someone like Shavers , I think Earnie has taken to many shots to the chin.

Can you imagine Earnie landing that big bomb on Wlad's fragile jaw TIMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/ Wladimir has taken bigger punches than Shavers has ever thrown and remained vertical. Fact.

2/ No.. I can't imagine Earnie Shavers landing ANY meaningful punch on Wladimir whatsoever. Not under ANY circumstances!

3/ If you could put a forcefield around Shavers, he would lose every single round 10-8 without exception.

4/ In reality, Shavers would be knocked out in the first round by Wladimir under any circumstances because he had no defence, no skills and a glass jaw.

5/ Shavers would never be able to compete as a professional boxer today. Fact.

Originally Posted by Max Power

If you could put a forcefield around Shavers, he would lose every single round 10-8 without exception.

...and this is Another Fact brought to you courtesy of @Max Power.

Keep it up Max! You're showing us what a firm grasp on reality you have AND how knowledgable you are about the sport. Good job!

Wlad would never knock out Shavers in 1 round because he would be afraid to take any chances. Instead he would clutch and hold his way to submission.

Originally Posted by Max Power

Originally Posted by C.J.Rock

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

He has a very high opinion of himself , for someone who was KOED by Jerry Quarry, he was a BIG puncher in his day.
Are you trying to tell me Wlad doesn't hit with as much power ? of course he does , he is massive in comparison to someone like Shavers , I think Earnie has taken to many shots to the chin.

Can you imagine Earnie landing that big bomb on Wlad's fragile jaw TIMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/ Wladimir has taken bigger punches than Shavers has ever thrown and remained vertical. Fact.

2/ No.. I can't imagine Earnie Shavers landing ANY meaningful punch on Wladimir whatsoever. Not under ANY circumstances!

3/ If you could put a forcefield around Shavers, he would lose every single round 10-8 without exception.

4/ In reality, Shavers would be knocked out in the first round by Wladimir under any circumstances because he had no defence, no skills and a glass jaw.

5/ Shavers would never be able to compete as a professional boxer today. Fact.

To say that one would have never heard of the K brothers in their days are way too full of themselves. I am not saying that the K brothers would have ramshackled everything on their way back then but they have the physical attributes and the set of skills to give any HW of any eras some tough tough headaches.
Would they have been champion? Pretty hard to say, but they would have at least been serious contenders. Shavers is too full of himself.

Originally Posted by Nameless

To say that one would have never heard of the K brothers in their days are way too full of themselves. I am not saying that the K brothers would have ramshackled everything on their way back then but they have the physical attributes and the set of skills to give any HW of any eras some tough tough headaches.
Would they have been champion? Pretty hard to say, but they would have at least been serious contenders. Shavers is too full of himself.

Agreed the two brothers would be forces to reckon with in any era.