Yea but I mean the other way. Say they have been retired much longer, are they always still eligible? Just strikes me on any given year they may have more deserving guys from years ago who were overlooked, but I don't know enough about it.
Wow lol..u really gonna reach for bazan, maussa, dou, bailey, torres, branco, branco? Haha those guys were journeymen and fringe contenders.
He got a gift over clottey and mosley and mayorga were shot dude....
Cotto never beat a great fighter in their prime.. fact like I said, he's a borderline hofer..
There is no statute of limitations per say but many who deserved to be in by now will not get in and 3 new names are added to the list each year to replace those that get in. They should change the modern day beginning at 1943 to 1970 or something. Some guys have been ignored for decades. Hell even Eubank and Benn have been eligible for over a 10 years and guys like Pintor and Hernandez more the 15.
Ricky Hatton all the way, there is a brave fighter who traveled and fought the best. Will always love and respect Ricky Hatton. A true fighter, brave and willing to expand his horizons.
there is always a debate on how good calzaghe actually was. i always say that he was a good, not great fighter. he had a few solid wins but that was it. really kessler and bhop are his only wins that i consider good. he had a fews others like bika, eubank or reid that were alright. the rest didnt mean much. i remember negotiations being made earlier in his career for him to fight bhop, jones, and glen johnson. they all fell through. he didnt have many good fighters around him, but he could have definitely negotiated weight to make better fights than he had.
and i cant believe that anyone would ever think margarito was anywhere near a HOF fighter. he is garbage. even when he cheated he was a B class fighter.
i wasnt gonna open this thread because i saw that it was about calzaghe and the hall of fame
i knew as soon as i opened it the first thing i would read is all the reasons why calzaghe should be in
and i wasnt disapointed
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People act like he was in his prime when he got to Jones and Hop he was champ for over 10 years and he was in his mid to late 30's. He belongs no doubt and Brock man i don't get you your favorite fighter was undefeated in the weakest era of all time damn near and don't hate him.
That's simply not the truth and I'm not sure why people continue to say it. There were never any negotiations made between any of those three mentioned. He was not going to come down to 160 to fight Hopkins and Jones was long gone to 175 at a time when Joe was just starting to break stride.
I also take issue with you saying Joe was not a great fighter. You seem to base this on the fact that his ledger is not full of household names. With or without fighting twenty other greats, Joe Calzaghe is still a great fighter. From a boxing standpoint he's a brilliant fighter and stand out skill wise and as I've said before you could probably count the number of guys that could have beaten him at 168 on one hand over the course of history. If that's not great then I dont know what is.
so you're saying that Margarito got knocked the fuck out by a shot Mosley? hahaha hmm dude you should think before you speak
Bazan was a good fighter, Maussa was awkward and went on to knock Harris the fuck out and this was when Harris was still relevant and that was for the WBA title, N'Dou went on to win the IBF title and was robbed against Malignaggi and 6 yrs later Canelo still felt he was a decent opponent to go after at jr middleweight , Bailey is a former 2 division champion (WBO at 140 and IBF at 147) was one of the biggest punchers in any division and just upset then undefeated prospect Mike Jones last year losing his title by decision to Alexander, Cotto took him out in 6, Torres was a huge puncher and went on to win the WBO title and get a huge KO win over Holt and as for Branco, his first loss was to Gatti, and Cotto is the only guy to stop him, and he did so by TKO by way of FRACTURED FUCKING ARM
as for the Clottey fight, of course you're gonna say any close fight Cotto was in is gonna go the other way, why? cause you're still crying about Cotto retiring your man crush, and again like I said, if you consider Cotto borderline, then there's no way in hell using your own logic that Manos de Lleso, Margacheato gets in....period
and word to the wise, learn to stay on fucking topic, this thread is about DLH, Trinidad, and Calzaghe getting into the HOF, not your petty little butt hurt whining
He has some points on Cotto he will get in barley but you could say he lost to a older not shot Mosley he was 36 that fight was close and the Clottey fight was really close as well. Margarito not going in the hall no shit he lost most of his big fights and the cheating debacle kinda outs him doesn't have the wins either. Trindad although lost against elite in lopsided decision and then got a gift he got enough good wins and weight division under his belt. Oscar although lost big fights as well he is champ in many divisions and his resume i feel is the best out of all the fighters on the list all should be in though.
Lets all keep in mind that the only criteria the HOF seems to have is that there is no criteria. At times it has seemed all you needed was a belt and at other times tin collecting had nothing to do with it. What they should do at least is up the year in which the modern era starts. 70 years is a bit much. Countless fighters have either been ignored or passed over since 1943.
And based on some standards today or what ones are placed on fighters by the fickle fans half of that hall from pioneers forward would be emptied out.
Its the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Perfection.
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