Thread: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

Originally Posted by p4pking

Stiverne is pretty good imo, he's just kinda lazy and looks to counter exclusively a lot. He can do that though, and he can move a bit, Wilder hasn't seen any of that.
If Wilder used his jab well and kept range to throw the right he'd win easy, but he didn't do that at all the other night and maybe isn't very good at it. If he comes in so sloppy again looking to fight I think Stiverne is well capable of taking him out.

Every fight I have seen o wilder he has been sloppy. That's why I don't think he's that good. He gets away with it cz he's fighting bums and clearly has power but I think when he gets in with someone with a pulse he'll be found out. I think Stiverne coul be that guy. He's technically good and as u said is a decent mover. If he can keep wilder off balance for a few rounds to take his power away he could be successful. On the other hand Wilder could tag him early an en it

This doesn't feel like a Heavyweight Title fight.
If anything it takes legitimacy away from the belt

I don't believe it.

I read the link, and the key words are "...is looking to match..." and "...my goal is to have..."
I'll believe it when I see both fighters walking toward the ring... and even then I might be a little skeptic.

Wilders next fight will either be against Chauncy Welliver or Bermane Stiverne, no one else. This comes from Wilders manager Jay Deas. Since I've never heard of Welliver and taking a look at his record he's lost to Solis and Sherman Williams, I'd hazard a guess that Weilliver will be Wilder's next opponent..

big step up for Wilder , will tell us a lot about him.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I don't believe it.

I read the link, and the key words are "...is looking to match..." and "...my goal is to have..."
I'll believe it when I see both fighters walking toward the ring... and even then I might be a little skeptic.

I hear you and halfway agree, but they have to let him step up sometime.
All these lateral and oblique moves are doing nothing for his rep, they have to know that.
Every time I see Wilder he looks unchanged, which means green.
Undefeated, 30 wins, 30 KOs is a good record, but you have to fight a live fighter for it to mean anything so I'm hoping they are through lying. Let's get serious, y'all.

Originally Posted by beenKOed

Originally Posted by TitoFan

I don't believe it.

I read the link, and the key words are "...is looking to match..." and "...my goal is to have..."
I'll believe it when I see both fighters walking toward the ring... and even then I might be a little skeptic.

I hear you and halfway agree, but they have to let him step up sometime.
All these lateral and oblique moves are doing nothing for his rep, they have to know that.
Every time I see Wilder he looks unchanged, which means green.
Undefeated, 30 wins, 30 KOs is a good record, but you have to fight a live fighter for it to mean anything so I'm hoping they are through lying. Let's get serious, y'all.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly they need to step up.
I'm just no longer convinced they're going to go through with it.
Who knows.... maybe all he needs is to lose one time so his team will stop spoon-feeding him, and get on with bringing him along at a more normal pace.

Stiverne has a fucking chin of iron and yes he will take some bombs early but he will survive and Wilder isnt used to going long, Stiverne is the True HW Champ, undisputed soon, this cat will go to the top. he is my boy. He will be sittin on the throne by Summer '14, crowned the Haitian King of Pop, awesome massive man, deep well and heart, he is going to the top. Wilder is unimpressive, he is a charlatain and will not be around much longer.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Stiverne has a fucking chin of iron and yes he will take some bombs early but he will survive and Wilder isnt used to going long, Stiverne is the True HW Champ, undisputed soon, this cat will go to the top. he is my boy. He will be sittin on the throne by Summer '14, crowned the Haitian King of Pop, awesome massive man, deep well and heart, he is going to the top. Wilder is unimpressive, he is a charlatain and will not be around much longer.

Here endeth today's lesson.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Stiverne has a fucking chin of iron and yes he will take some bombs early but he will survive and Wilder isnt used to going long, Stiverne is the True HW Champ, undisputed soon, this cat will go to the top. he is my boy. He will be sittin on the throne by Summer '14, crowned the Haitian King of Pop, awesome massive man, deep well and heart, he is going to the top. Wilder is unimpressive, he is a charlatain and will not be around much longer.

Here endeth today's lesson.

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