Thread: Remember Occupy Wall Street

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

come on Lyle, atleast its a very very very small start. Give a modicum of credit where it is due. It was a good thing, even if it didnt make a dent, it was a good thing.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

come on Lyle, atleast its a very very very small start. Give a modicum of credit where it is due. It was a good thing, even if it didnt make a dent, it was a good thing.

It was a kind gesture but it changed NOTHING

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

come on Lyle, atleast its a very very very small start. Give a modicum of credit where it is due. It was a good thing, even if it didnt make a dent, it was a good thing.

If the Occupy stance was simply about being pissed that we were bailing out banks and that they wanted to end ALL subsidies to businesses and corporations I'd totally support them. Unfortunately they lose credibility with me when they promote ending subsidies but in turn have their hand out for their own.

Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

come on Lyle, atleast its a very very very small start. Give a modicum of credit where it is due. It was a good thing, even if it didnt make a dent, it was a good thing.

If the Occupy stance was simply about being pissed that we were bailing out banks and that they wanted to end ALL subsidies to businesses and corporations I'd totally support them. Unfortunately they lose credibility with me when they promote ending subsidies but in turn have their hand out for their own.

I agree a lot of them have their hand out for sure

(those flee bearing varmints)

but they wouldnt of had their hand out to Wall street that would be held out in front of Parliament, senate or the house of representatives. They were outside Wall street pointing the finger at where the power lyes lays lies.

Kirkland, what do we have in common with the OWS crowd? I don't see much that I can relate to them on,but maybe u know something I don't. Also, if ur main point is to be anti-corporatist n u cover yourself in gap clothing n drink Starbucks coffee, yes, u r a hypocrite n it negates ur argument. Just like the idiots protesting war n holding peace signs while throwing bottles at cops n military members. That is an ignorant crowd that occupied and basically accom

Accomplished nothing.

1st of all we cannot lump all the people in the OWS together and say they all had their hand out, that is unfaitr, plenty of them had good intentions and didnt do disgusting self-centered momma's boy stuff. Dont judhe an entire movement based on even if 40% of them were whack jobs. So it didint accomplish piss, I agree, but its better to try and fail than to do nothing and regret later that you didnt try at all.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

They just bought up millions of dollars worth of medical debt. That bit of information apparently already fell off the back of the shelf.

....Princess I'm part of an organization where $15 mil is just about the daily operating cost of 1 of our hospitals where we provide treatment to patients for FREE. So no, I'm not impressed with that.

Since I started posting here I've repeated several themes over and over with you. I told you back in 2007 that the economy was unbalanced, underegulated and was heading for an epic meltdown with a long period of unpleasantness afterwards.

I told you that the economies of developed countries and particularly the US were becoming more and more unequal with all the gains of economic growth nd productivity going to the top 1%, and that no matter which party was in power in developed countries the situation would continue to get more unequal.

I also told you that the GOP could no longer rely on the politics of racial resentment to appeal to the majority and win elections with the white vote only. And that the decades of race-baiting politics would start to bite them in the arse as the whilte majority dwindled.

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And you've now watched an economic meltdown and a pathetic recovery even five years later, you've seen the beginning of mass recognition of the unequal economy and what it means for future economic growth and the prosperity of all Americans and you've seen a Kenyan imposter get elected president and then get re-elected in the middle of the worst economy in living memory.

Clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.

And you've taken the opposite side of the argument to all the above stuff and been proved epically, relentlessly wrong for years on end. You're going to be wrong about this too.

Originally Posted by mikeeod

Kirkland, what do we have in common with the OWS crowd? I don't see much that I can relate to them on,but maybe u know something I don't. Also, if ur main point is to be anti-corporatist n u cover yourself in gap clothing n drink Starbucks coffee, yes, u r a hypocrite n it negates ur argument. Just like the idiots protesting war n holding peace signs while throwing bottles at cops n military members. That is an ignorant crowd that occupied and basically accom

If you're earning less than a couple of hundred thousand a year and especially if you're making less than a hundred then you're part of the 99% who are having their ages cut, their hours increased, their pensions and benefits removed or cut, their jobs outsourced and their standard of living eroded.

The OWS people don't live in Anarcho-Syndlacist communes.




They're part of the capitalist system too and are quite happy for it to continue as long as the system is changed so that the prosperity created by economic growth is broadly shared, not just corraled by the top-earning sliver of society.

There is a good economic reason for more broadly-shared prospeirty too. The number one main economic problem now is lack of demand meaning consequent lack of investment, a vicious circle that means the economy doesn't grow -- like now. All the money going to the top sliver means that the 99% don't have money to spend, there is no demand in the economy (70% of the US economy is consumer spending) and so no investment/economic growth. And as all that money keeps accumulating to the top 1% they don't spend ot, they just invest it and this creates huge speculative bubbles in financial markets leading to massive busts (what happened in 2008. So Occupy are actually smart capitalists. Things won't improve properly until what Occupy wants happens.

The real issues are lost in the crowd for the most part. Theres 'rent a crowd' these days. A group with a beef of some sorts go to persons who address whole groups and get them onside. They offer them something down the track for the backing, it happens all the time out here. Then you have the dupe a crowd into backing you up by getting them emotionally involved without educating them on it. Then you the get your Union to lean on their Union for added numbers.
That adds up to a smoke and mirrors game with 88% of marchers or occupiers not knowing exactly why they are really there.

Personally Im all for the psychopathic snipers against messy hits on marchers conglomerate.

You can tell Occupy have the establishment worried because the media are focusing on individual personalities rather than what Occupy are saying.

During the time the media were forced to coverage Occupy they'd cluster round, for instance, one random antisemitic nutter who turned up at the camp. New York is chock full of random nutters, in some parts of Manhattan you can throw a stone and hit three of them, so some nutter attracted to all the cameras and action being filmed and being made the public face of Occupy tells you everything you need to know about this.

Like Assange and Snowden and others the focus is on the person, their personality and character and not what they've revealed/have to say.

Yeah and people love having there focus taken away from the real issues so they personally dont have to act on their conscious.That goes for the large percentage of all the talkers on both sides of this. They use the reverse stance as an excuse to do nothing but point the finger.