Thread: Latest p4p rankings. Agree or disagree?

1 United States Floyd Mayweather Jr 45–0 (26 KO) Junior middleweight
2 United States Andre Ward 26–0 (14 KO) Super middleweight
3 United States Timothy Bradley 31–0–0–1 (12 KO) Welterweight
4 Ukraine Wladimir Klitschko 61–3 (51 KO) Heavyweight
5 Argentina Sergio Gabriel Martínez 51–2–2 (28 KO) Middleweight
6 Mexico Juan Manuel Márquez 55–6–1 (40 KO) Welterweight
7 Philippines Manny Pacquiao 54–5–2 (38 KO) Welterweight
8 United States Adrien Broner 27–0 (22 KO) Welterweight
9 Mexico Saúl Álvarez 42–1–1 (30 KO) Junior middleweight
10 Cuba Guillermo Rigondeaux 12–0 (8 KO) Junior featherweight
Rankings compiled by The Ring magazine



My thoughts:

Bradley, off two tight, controversial wins over Pac and JMM, is too high at # 3.
A case can be made for JMM and Sergio to be flip-flopped in the rankings.
Broner's iffy at # 8.
Canelo does not belong on the list.
Rigo's p4p material, but only has the 12 fights. Beating Nonito was big, though.

GGG belongs on the list before Canelo does.

The rest of the list looks alright.

I think they have the top 5 right (Timothy, Wlad and Sergio can be shifted around at will). Floyd and SOG are clearly the top two athletes in the sport right now.

I'd like to see Danny Garcia and GGG breaking the top 10 too. Garcia's smashing of Matthysse was very impressive.

I probably put quite a bit less stock in achievements than most as far as this. I think Golovkin and Garcia should be on there as well, definitely over Broner or Alvarez for me. I do think Rigondeaux is a better fighter than Wlad or Martinez currently as well, but can't gripe to much about that.

Agreed, Broner should not be on the list. He might at some point but not now. I don't argue with the people who say Canelo should not be on. Get Bradley out of the three spot. All I can do is reiterate what you guys have said

i dont really like how p4p is formulated. other than the first 2, i just about totally disagree.

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 Timothy Bradley
4 Juan Manuel Márquez
5 Wladimir Klitschko
6 Sergio Martínez
7 Roman Gonzalez
8 Saúl Álvarez
9 Danny Garcia
10 Manny Pacquiao

At first I had a hard time with Gennady Golovkin. I couldn't find a spot for him. Than I remembered his best wins are still Matthew Macklin and Curtis Stevens. So he doesn't deserve a spot. Yet. Garcia win over Matthysee, Alvarez win over Trout and Gonzalez win over Estrada easily trump Golovkin best wins

Delete Broner and Canelo from the list and everything else looks about right...

WTF has Canelo done and why the hell is Broner on the list. lol They got a free place on the list because they are promoted by GBP who happens to own the Ring Magazine..

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 Timothy Bradley JMM
4 Juan Manuel Márquez Sergio
5 Wladimir Klitschko
6 Sergio Martínez Bradley
7 Roman Gonzalez Pacquiao
8 Saúl Álvarez Garcia
9 Danny Garcia Golovkin
10 Manny Pacquiao Rigondeaux

There..... fixed it for you.
You're quite welcome.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 Timothy Bradley JMM
4 Juan Manuel Márquez Sergio
5 Wladimir Klitschko
6 Sergio Martínez Bradley
7 Roman Gonzalez Pacquiao
8 Saúl Álvarez Garcia
9 Danny Garcia Golovkin
10 Manny Pacquiao Rigondeaux

There..... fixed it for you.
You're quite welcome.

Shut the fuck up. I didn't order you to fuck up the list

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 Timothy Bradley JMM
4 Juan Manuel Márquez Sergio
5 Wladimir Klitschko
6 Sergio Martínez Bradley
7 Roman Gonzalez Pacquiao
8 Saúl Álvarez Garcia
9 Danny Garcia Golovkin
10 Manny Pacquiao Rigondeaux

There..... fixed it for you.
You're quite welcome.

Shut the fuck up. I didn't order you to fuck up the list

My new calling is to help those poor, ignorant bastards find their way in life.
Think of it as my good deed for the day.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Andre Ward
3 Timothy Bradley JMM
4 Juan Manuel Márquez Sergio
5 Wladimir Klitschko
6 Sergio Martínez Bradley
7 Roman Gonzalez Pacquiao
8 Saúl Álvarez Garcia
9 Danny Garcia Golovkin
10 Manny Pacquiao Rigondeaux

There..... fixed it for you.
You're quite welcome.

Shut the fuck up. I didn't order you to fuck up the list

My new calling is to help those poor, ignorant bastards find their way in life.
Think of it as my good deed for the day.

The blind do need jobs too, I guess

C'mon.... between you and me. You know Canelo has no business in the top 10 p4p list.



Take off your biased hat and put on your knowledgeable boxing hat.... that's right.
Now think about it.

Just trying to be helpful here.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

C'mon.... between you and me. You know Canelo has no business in the top 10 p4p list.



Take off your biased hat and put on your knowledgeable boxing hat.... that's right.
Now think about it.

Just trying to be helpful here.

A victory over Austin Trout. You know the guy who had his way with your Miguel Cotto means a lot more than wins over Matthew Macklin and Curtis Stevens combined. It's that simple. If you think otherwise than there really is no hope for you.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by TitoFan

C'mon.... between you and me. You know Canelo has no business in the top 10 p4p list.



Take off your biased hat and put on your knowledgeable boxing hat.... that's right.
Now think about it.

Just trying to be helpful here.

A victory over Austin Trout. You know the guy who had his way with your Miguel Cotto means a lot more than wins over Matthew Macklin and Curtis Stevens combined. It's that simple. If you think otherwise than there really is no hope for you.

One meaningful victory, VD. ONE. There's a conga line of boxers out there with more than just the one meaningful victory who are a hell of a lot more deserving for a spot in the top ten p4p than Canelo.

Canelo is still on the way up, VD. But there's no shortcuts into the elite. That shit's got to be earned over time, and with a hell of a lot more than one meaningful opponent.

Anyway, VD... opinions are just that.... opinions. You think Canelo belongs in the top 10. I don't. I didn't even put Cotto in there, and he's got a lot more reasons to be in there than Canelo. Cotto's the decorated veteran, with the HOF resume. Cotto looked 20 times better against Floyd than Canelo did. Cotto faced better opposition in his first 15-20 fights... than Canelo has faced in his total 40-some. Etc, etc, etc. But I'm not here crowing about Cotto having to be on the list, because I know he's lost some fights, and is on the downhill side of a great career. Objectiveness..... it's a good concept. Try it sometime.