Thread: Martinez wants Golovkin after Cotto!

Martinez: When I KO Cotto, I Can Focus on Golovkin! - Boxing News

Happy to see this. He seems honest and serious about wanting the fight, lets hope it happens.

Sounds like a call out to me, great to hear him being level headed and makes a good point. First things first, don't sleep on Cotto who knows its his final hoorah.

It makes sense and probably the biggest money, so hope he beats Cotto and looks good doing it.

Good way to build interest in the Cotto PPV.

I know that's pessimistic but it's been such a long wait for anything to happen in the MW division I can't help but expect Sergio to suffer an "injury" in the Cotto fight. With that "injury" convincing him it's time to hang them up.

It's not an indictment on Sergio or his career. I just have this gut feeling he's only still around for this Cotto payday. I hope I'm way off and Sergio shows himself to still be willing to take on all comers.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Good way to build interest in the Cotto PPV.

I know that's pessimistic but it's been such a long wait for anything to happen in the MW division I can't help but expect Sergio to suffer an "injury" in the Cotto fight. With that "injury" convincing him it's time to hang them up.

It's not an indictment on Sergio or his career. I just have this gut feeling he's only still around for this Cotto payday. I hope I'm way off and Sergio shows himself to still be willing to take on all comers.

I wouldn't put it passed him to actually suffer an injury. He came out of his last two fights pretty busted up. On the other hand, this is the first opponent that he will be facing that isn't bigger than he is. But, if he doesn't suffer an injury, I don't doubt his willingness to step in the ring with GGG. Martinez versus GGG would be the biggest event at middleweight since Martinez took the title. It would be a highly anticipated fight.

Fingers crossed that networks,management,promoters,pixies don't make Sergio forget. Cotto is no walk in the park though and it will still take a very focused Martinez to deal with him first. The weight and experience fighting at it has to favour Martinez but the guy seems to be falling to pieces and Miguel is not going to try and win on points. Could be the type of fight that makes him hang them up rather than get dismantled by Golovkin.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Fingers crossed that networks,management,promoters,pixies don't make Sergio forget. Cotto is no walk in the park though and it will still take a very focused Martinez to deal with him first. The weight and experience fighting at it has to favour Martinez but the guy seems to be falling to pieces and Miguel is not going to try and win on points. Could be the type of fight that makes him hang them up rather than get dismantled by Golovkin.

This ^^

I'm starting to dislike Martinez immensely. Talk about pretzel logic. So now rather then before eh? Now when I'm a fight away from packing it in verses 2 or 3 fights ago? You cant make this shit up.
From a purely boxing perspective Martinez should have fought 3G when he was at his best instead of at his worst. To then claim you need to fight him next rather the risk him getting better when he himself is in the twilight tells me he has no intention of fighting him.


I think you have to factor in Sergios slide along with Cotto's. Imo Sergio's has been more like an avalanche then a slide. Cotto's has been gradual. Gives a little credence to the phrase "growing old overnight". Sergio has looked terrible. He didn't look all that great even in his Chavez win. I think ring size is going to be a key player in this one. It remains to be seen if Cotto can take a planted shot from a guy over 170.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Good way to build interest in the Cotto PPV.

I know that's pessimistic but it's been such a long wait for anything to happen in the MW division I can't help but expect Sergio to suffer an "injury" in the Cotto fight. With that "injury" convincing him it's time to hang them up.

It's not an indictment on Sergio or his career. I just have this gut feeling he's only still around for this Cotto payday. I hope I'm way off and Sergio shows himself to still be willing to take on all comers.

I hear you, he looked terrible in his last fight. I'm hoping we see the guy that KO'ed Williams again, I sure wouldn't bet on it though.
I've always heard the legs go first. Martinez with legs below 100%, against Cotto, would be ugly. Hope everything has healed perfectly because he'll need it all.
Good luck Sergio!

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Fingers crossed that networks,management,promoters,pixies don't make Sergio forget. Cotto is no walk in the park though and it will still take a very focused Martinez to deal with him first. The weight and experience fighting at it has to favour Martinez but the guy seems to be falling to pieces and Miguel is not going to try and win on points. Could be the type of fight that makes him hang them up rather than get dismantled by Golovkin.

This ^^

I'm starting to dislike Martinez immensely. Talk about pretzel logic. So now rather then before eh? Now when I'm a fight away from packing it in verses 2 or 3 fights ago? You cant make this shit up.
From a purely boxing perspective Martinez should have fought 3G when he was at his best instead of at his worst. To then claim you need to fight him next rather the risk him getting better when he himself is in the twilight tells me he has no intention of fighting him.


I think you have to factor in Sergios slide along with Cotto's. Imo Sergio's has been more like an avalanche then a slide. Cotto's has been gradual. Gives a little credence to the phrase "growing old overnight". Sergio has looked terrible. He didn't look all that great even in his Chavez win. I think ring size is going to be a key player in this one. It remains to be seen if Cotto can take a planted shot from a guy over 170.

I don't get that. The fact that his name is in his mouth and its on some sort of table is a good thing. Martinez wasn't obligated or needing to do anything of the sort say in that window of a few years ago when Golovkin was still a question mark...still is in some regards..and planking a 1000 yr old Kassim Ouma. Now, today he is a known quantity and has had a couple breakout decent level opponents at MSG and its logical. Shit...all the power to the geezer frankly People are Hell bent on playing this up as a premeditated duck move and its fucking hysterical! Who knows what tomorrow brings in this sport but jebus Christmas man the dude still gets some respect you'd think eh.

I can't see a comparison to slides really. I mean Martinez has remained in the drivers seat. oh yeah he has rolled the truck a few times but bottom line is he has maintained a winning streak and is one fight removed from absolutley clowning the manitee that is Chavez. Cotto has been stutter stepping for a while now. Tough all time comer I have nothing but respect for but he has been on a course of reset and retry. Man has taking some -serious- poundings ffs. Here he is again with a Rodriquez tko under his belt on reset and while impressive, Delvin was there as a showcase and a doormat to THIS oppurtunity..nothing more. I'm just saying man and not railing on you brother but this dude just can't win. If he says nothing he is ducking him, if he calls him out he WILL duck him lol, if he doesn't fight off injury he is retiring, and if he beats Cotto then he will retire with an excuse. I mean f'n A ya know

i think that sergio will have an easy enough time against cotto to not sustain another injury. i hope that ggg can fight quillin before then. that would set up a huge fight between ggg and sergio.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't get that. The fact that his name is in his mouth and its on some sort of table is a good thing. Martinez wasn't obligated or needing to do anything of the sort say in that window of a few years ago when Golovkin was still a question mark...still is in some regards..and planking a 1000 yr old Kassim Ouma. Now, today he is a known quantity and has had a couple breakout decent level opponents at MSG and its logical. Shit...all the power to the geezer frankly People are Hell bent on playing this up as a premeditated duck move and its fucking hysterical! Who knows what tomorrow brings in this sport but jebus Christmas man the dude still gets some respect you'd think eh.

I can't see a comparison to slides really. I mean Martinez has remained in the drivers seat. oh yeah he has rolled the truck a few times but bottom line is he has maintained a winning streak and is one fight removed from absolutley clowning the manitee that is Chavez. Cotto has been stutter stepping for a while now. Tough all time comer I have nothing but respect for but he has been on a course of reset and retry. Man has taking some -serious- poundings ffs. Here he is again with a Rodriquez tko under his belt on reset and while impressive, Delvin was there as a showcase and a doormat to THIS oppurtunity..nothing more. I'm just saying man and not railing on you brother but this dude just can't win. If he says nothing he is ducking him, if he calls him out he WILL duck him lol, if he doesn't fight off injury he is retiring, and if he beats Cotto then he will retire with an excuse. I mean f'n A ya know

Now, now don’t get to hasty. I just don’t think Martinez wanted to fight 3G and to be perfectly honest, at this stage in his career and given his physical erosion I cant blame him. After all the man has toiled in relative obscurity while the rest of the stars have rocketed to Godlike status. All the while haunted by the ghost of Carlos Monzon. That’s no easy road. Maybe he will fight him but what I’m saying is that he already could have a and even unified in the process. What he is saying in this report does not make any sense because 3G could have been taken out of the picture before this ever got started. Instead he has put it off and put it off but again I cant blame him for that in the practical sense. After all this is prize fighting. He probably got twice the cash slapping Jr around. His comments suggest to me that he does not want to fight but I can be a tad over analytical at times. Believe when I say that I would not fight 3G if I was close to 40 and on my way out the door. I’d be cashing out. Difference is I would leave the topic alone given what I have already noted. And I certainly would not be saying something like this prior to a comeback fight against Cotto. (Anyway Floyd will probably want the winner)

There is no comparison to the slides. One has appeared overnight and the other steady since Cement Gate. A lot of people remain at the driver’s seat that have no business being there. Its not that he rolled a few times as much as the when he did and what it looked like. What if Cotto wins? Does it say that much about Cotto or does it speak to Martinez?
In theory Martinez should blast him out of there. What if it goes 12? I think he did clown Chavez but who in their right mind thought he wouldn’t? Instead of putting “rinse and repeat” on a shampoo bottle they could just put a picture of Jr. on the label. I catch the damned if he does and damned if he does not. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m not going to go cack and get every press release of 3G asking him to the dance and his response. Suffice it is to say that Martinez could have gotten this guy out of the way before he himself started to break down. To now say that he is next before he gets good is disingenuous imo. I just don’t think he has any intentions on fighting him which is fine with me. I certainly don’t consider it a duck at this point. I consider it wise. He’s accomplished a lot and can retire after Cotto with his head held high either way. Again I have this feeling Floyd might come knocking. Might be the 50th. Say by to Marcianos record.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't get that. The fact that his name is in his mouth and its on some sort of table is a good thing. Martinez wasn't obligated or needing to do anything of the sort say in that window of a few years ago when Golovkin was still a question mark...still is in some regards..and planking a 1000 yr old Kassim Ouma. Now, today he is a known quantity and has had a couple breakout decent level opponents at MSG and its logical. Shit...all the power to the geezer frankly People are Hell bent on playing this up as a premeditated duck move and its fucking hysterical! Who knows what tomorrow brings in this sport but jebus Christmas man the dude still gets some respect you'd think eh.

I can't see a comparison to slides really. I mean Martinez has remained in the drivers seat. oh yeah he has rolled the truck a few times but bottom line is he has maintained a winning streak and is one fight removed from absolutley clowning the manitee that is Chavez. Cotto has been stutter stepping for a while now. Tough all time comer I have nothing but respect for but he has been on a course of reset and retry. Man has taking some -serious- poundings ffs. Here he is again with a Rodriquez tko under his belt on reset and while impressive, Delvin was there as a showcase and a doormat to THIS oppurtunity..nothing more. I'm just saying man and not railing on you brother but this dude just can't win. If he says nothing he is ducking him, if he calls him out he WILL duck him lol, if he doesn't fight off injury he is retiring, and if he beats Cotto then he will retire with an excuse. I mean f'n A ya know

Now, now don’t get to hasty. I just don’t think Martinez wanted to fight 3G and to be perfectly honest, at this stage in his career and given his physical erosion I cant blame him. After all the man has toiled in relative obscurity while the rest of the stars have rocketed to Godlike status. All the while haunted by the ghost of Carlos Monzon. That’s no easy road. Maybe he will fight him but what I’m saying is that he already could have a and even unified in the process. What he is saying in this report does not make any sense because 3G could have been taken out of the picture before this ever got started. Instead he has put it off and put it off but again I cant blame him for that in the practical sense. After all this is prize fighting. He probably got twice the cash slapping Jr around. His comments suggest to me that he does not want to fight but I can be a tad over analytical at times. Believe when I say that I would not fight 3G if I was close to 40 and on my way out the door. I’d be cashing out. Difference is I would leave the topic alone given what I have already noted. And I certainly would not be saying something like this prior to a comeback fight against Cotto. (Anyway Floyd will probably want the winner)

There is no comparison to the slides. One has appeared overnight and the other steady since Cement Gate. A lot of people remain at the driver’s seat that have no business being there. Its not that he rolled a few times as much as the when he did and what it looked like. What if Cotto wins? Does it say that much about Cotto or does it speak to Martinez?
In theory Martinez should blast him out of there. What if it goes 12? I think he did clown Chavez but who in their right mind thought he wouldn’t? Instead of putting “rinse and repeat” on a shampoo bottle they could just put a picture of Jr. on the label. I catch the damned if he does and damned if he does not. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m not going to go cack and get every press release of 3G asking him to the dance and his response. Suffice it is to say that Martinez could have gotten this guy out of the way before he himself started to break down. To now say that he is next before he gets good is disingenuous imo. I just don’t think he has any intentions on fighting him which is fine with me. I certainly don’t consider it a duck at this point. I consider it wise. He’s accomplished a lot and can retire after Cotto with his head held high either way. Again I have this feeling Floyd might come knocking. Might be the 50th. Say by to Marcianos record.

I think Martinez will be fine. He's older..he's not dead. Golovkin has finally hit his stride this last year, big name in the big time tele and thats his preogative to pop off and call for the best of the best. We can only hope that all eras or peaks transition and culminate in what so many -assume- as a formality or 'passing of the guard' here. Martinez was doing as all others and building base and if he was in fact in obscurity...could ya blame him? Looking at him line by line what I see is a guy who did nothing but fight about 3 top 10 contenders and slap the cheeto filled cheeks of a cash cow around as would any man looking to make a statement and showcase. Martinez was stewing on that one after the screw job he recieved and frankly it was great tv. You can't slow and speed up natural career progression and all bs aside, its Sergios shot to call and hes calling it. The best thing he can do now is steam roll Cotto, which I think he will, and fight a healthy return fight regardless of 1 or 12 rounds. Then...lets hope they both agree to disagree and settle it in the ring. We'll see.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by Spicoli

I don't get that. The fact that his name is in his mouth and its on some sort of table is a good thing. Martinez wasn't obligated or needing to do anything of the sort say in that window of a few years ago when Golovkin was still a question mark...still is in some regards..and planking a 1000 yr old Kassim Ouma. Now, today he is a known quantity and has had a couple breakout decent level opponents at MSG and its logical. Shit...all the power to the geezer frankly People are Hell bent on playing this up as a premeditated duck move and its fucking hysterical! Who knows what tomorrow brings in this sport but jebus Christmas man the dude still gets some respect you'd think eh.

I can't see a comparison to slides really. I mean Martinez has remained in the drivers seat. oh yeah he has rolled the truck a few times but bottom line is he has maintained a winning streak and is one fight removed from absolutley clowning the manitee that is Chavez. Cotto has been stutter stepping for a while now. Tough all time comer I have nothing but respect for but he has been on a course of reset and retry. Man has taking some -serious- poundings ffs. Here he is again with a Rodriquez tko under his belt on reset and while impressive, Delvin was there as a showcase and a doormat to THIS oppurtunity..nothing more. I'm just saying man and not railing on you brother but this dude just can't win. If he says nothing he is ducking him, if he calls him out he WILL duck him lol, if he doesn't fight off injury he is retiring, and if he beats Cotto then he will retire with an excuse. I mean f'n A ya know

Now, now don’t get to hasty. I just don’t think Martinez wanted to fight 3G and to be perfectly honest, at this stage in his career and given his physical erosion I cant blame him. After all the man has toiled in relative obscurity while the rest of the stars have rocketed to Godlike status. All the while haunted by the ghost of Carlos Monzon. That’s no easy road. Maybe he will fight him but what I’m saying is that he already could have a and even unified in the process. What he is saying in this report does not make any sense because 3G could have been taken out of the picture before this ever got started. Instead he has put it off and put it off but again I cant blame him for that in the practical sense. After all this is prize fighting. He probably got twice the cash slapping Jr around. His comments suggest to me that he does not want to fight but I can be a tad over analytical at times. Believe when I say that I would not fight 3G if I was close to 40 and on my way out the door. I’d be cashing out. Difference is I would leave the topic alone given what I have already noted. And I certainly would not be saying something like this prior to a comeback fight against Cotto. (Anyway Floyd will probably want the winner)

There is no comparison to the slides. One has appeared overnight and the other steady since Cement Gate. A lot of people remain at the driver’s seat that have no business being there. Its not that he rolled a few times as much as the when he did and what it looked like. What if Cotto wins? Does it say that much about Cotto or does it speak to Martinez?
In theory Martinez should blast him out of there. What if it goes 12? I think he did clown Chavez but who in their right mind thought he wouldn’t? Instead of putting “rinse and repeat” on a shampoo bottle they could just put a picture of Jr. on the label. I catch the damned if he does and damned if he does not. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m not going to go cack and get every press release of 3G asking him to the dance and his response. Suffice it is to say that Martinez could have gotten this guy out of the way before he himself started to break down. To now say that he is next before he gets good is disingenuous imo. I just don’t think he has any intentions on fighting him which is fine with me. I certainly don’t consider it a duck at this point. I consider it wise. He’s accomplished a lot and can retire after Cotto with his head held high either way. Again I have this feeling Floyd might come knocking. Might be the 50th. Say by to Marcianos record.

I think Martinez will be fine. He's older..he's not dead. Golovkin has finally hit his stride this last year, big name in the big time tele and thats his preogative to pop off and call for the best of the best. We can only hope that all eras or peaks transition and culminate in what so many -assume- as a formality or 'passing of the guard' here. Martinez was doing as all others and building base and if he was in fact in obscurity...could ya blame him? Looking at him line by line what I see is a guy who did nothing but fight about 3 top 10 contenders and slap the cheeto filled cheeks of a cash cow around as would any man looking to make a statement and showcase. Martinez was stewing on that one after the screw job he recieved and frankly it was great tv. You can't slow and speed up natural career progression and all bs aside, its Sergios shot to call and hes calling it. The best thing he can do now is steam roll Cotto, which I think he will, and fight a healthy return fight regardless of 1 or 12 rounds. Then...lets hope they both agree to disagree and settle it in the ring. We'll see.

You guys are writing too much....wayyyy too much. Lol