Thread: Anthony Joshua and Hughie Fury both in action this weekend

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Come on ross I know you like Hughie , but Joshua is Olympic champion , so no Hughie doesn't have the better pedigree.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Because he went the distance with Darch? His most impressive win for me is his stoppage of Perkovic in 5 as he is a hard fighter to stop but as for tough competition he hasnt exactly beaten anyone that you would say Joshua wouldnt beat.

Savon is a world class fighter. I agree that Joshua doesnt deserve the win over Savon. But to call the chaps Hughie beat the best in the world is just silly, it was a fucking youth competition and to make things worse he was in the final against an Indian, reknowned for producing world class heavies.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Come on ross I know you like Hughie , but Joshua is Olympic champion , so no Hughie doesn't have the better pedigree.

My point was, if the right result was read out, Joshua wouldnt have got past the first fight. He was hyped to fuck before the Olympics which was held in his home town. It was made for him to win. Hughie did his on his own merits, not an with an olympic commitee backing him.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Because he went the distance with Darch? His most impressive win for me is his stoppage of Perkovic in 5 as he is a hard fighter to stop but as for tough competition he hasnt exactly beaten anyone that you would say Joshua wouldnt beat.

Savon is a world class fighter. I agree that Joshua doesnt deserve the win over Savon. But to call the chaps Hughie beat the best in the world is just silly, it was a fucking youth competition and to make things worse he was in the final against an Indian, reknowned for producing world class heavies.

They were still the best in the world of that age group at super heavy.

Hughie may not be knocking people over now but hes learning how to box against pros. His strength will come and he will start to relax as Chris Eubank Jr is now doing. He was labelled as "feather fisted" but is now on a run of stoppages.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Come on ross I know you like Hughie , but Joshua is Olympic champion , so no Hughie doesn't have the better pedigree.

My point was, if the right result was read out, Joshua wouldnt have got past the first fight. He was hyped to fuck before the Olympics which was held in his home town. It was made for him to win. Hughie did his on his own merits, not an with an olympic commitee backing him.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Because he went the distance with Darch? His most impressive win for me is his stoppage of Perkovic in 5 as he is a hard fighter to stop but as for tough competition he hasnt exactly beaten anyone that you would say Joshua wouldnt beat.

Savon is a world class fighter. I agree that Joshua doesnt deserve the win over Savon. But to call the chaps Hughie beat the best in the world is just silly, it was a fucking youth competition and to make things worse he was in the final against an Indian, reknowned for producing world class heavies.

They were still the best in the world of that age group at super heavy.

Hughie may not be knocking people over now but hes learning how to box against pros. His strength will come and he will start to relax as Chris Eubank Jr is now doing. He was labelled as "feather fisted" but is now on a run of stoppages.

Hypocrite. Same could be said about Fury. If the correct result was read out against McDermott he would not be where he is today.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Come on ross I know you like Hughie , but Joshua is Olympic champion , so no Hughie doesn't have the better pedigree.

My point was, if the right result was read out, Joshua wouldnt have got past the first fight. He was hyped to fuck before the Olympics which was held in his home town. It was made for him to win. Hughie did his on his own merits, not an with an olympic commitee backing him.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Because he went the distance with Darch? His most impressive win for me is his stoppage of Perkovic in 5 as he is a hard fighter to stop but as for tough competition he hasnt exactly beaten anyone that you would say Joshua wouldnt beat.

Savon is a world class fighter. I agree that Joshua doesnt deserve the win over Savon. But to call the chaps Hughie beat the best in the world is just silly, it was a fucking youth competition and to make things worse he was in the final against an Indian, reknowned for producing world class heavies.

They were still the best in the world of that age group at super heavy.

Hughie may not be knocking people over now but hes learning how to box against pros. His strength will come and he will start to relax as Chris Eubank Jr is now doing. He was labelled as "feather fisted" but is now on a run of stoppages.

Nobody thinks Hughie is a bigger prospect than Joshua , merited or not merited , that is a fact.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Come on ross I know you like Hughie , but Joshua is Olympic champion , so no Hughie doesn't have the better pedigree.

My point was, if the right result was read out, Joshua wouldnt have got past the first fight. He was hyped to fuck before the Olympics which was held in his home town. It was made for him to win. Hughie did his on his own merits, not an with an olympic commitee backing him.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Dont get me wrong, I really like Hughie and as hes only 19 I see more potential than with Joshua.

Joshua will look cumbersome as soon as he fights someone decent that can move and its known hes been down. Tyson has been down in the pros but dont think he was dropped like Joshua in the amateurs and that includes taking Prices punches who some would have you believe is the biggest puncher in the world.

Again complete shite. Joshua only started boxing a few years ago. Getting dropped at such an early stage means nothing. Hughie although only 19 has probably in and around boxing Gyms since he was 5. I like Hughie but suggesting hes a bigger prospect then Joshua is just ur Fury fanboy shining through.

Joshua had been boxing for 2 years when Whyte beat him in his very first bout. Joshua started in 2007 and the loss to Whyte was 2009. It doesnt mean to say thats the first time he was knocked down either.

Pretty much everyone agrees that Joshua shouldn't have even won that first bout in the Olympics to Savon. Hughie travelled to Armenia and beat the best fighters in the world legitimately. I believe he has a better pedigree and is having a tougher more beneficial apprenticeship.

Because he went the distance with Darch? His most impressive win for me is his stoppage of Perkovic in 5 as he is a hard fighter to stop but as for tough competition he hasnt exactly beaten anyone that you would say Joshua wouldnt beat.

Savon is a world class fighter. I agree that Joshua doesnt deserve the win over Savon. But to call the chaps Hughie beat the best in the world is just silly, it was a fucking youth competition and to make things worse he was in the final against an Indian, reknowned for producing world class heavies.

They were still the best in the world of that age group at super heavy.

Hughie may not be knocking people over now but hes learning how to box against pros. His strength will come and he will start to relax as Chris Eubank Jr is now doing. He was labelled as "feather fisted" but is now on a run of stoppages.

Nobody thinks Hughie is a bigger prospect than Joshua , merited or not merited , that is a fact.

I have a feeling they will learn.

Just remember what everyone thought aout Price when he was knocking over journeymen.

There will come a point where Hearn will move Joshua up and because hes now even believing the hype hes put out it will be too much of a jump in class.

I dont think Joshua is as vulnerable as Price but I do think he will look like a robot against someone who can move.

Fortunately for him there is fuck all good heavyweights who can move.

Once Tyson Fury comes up against a good mover he'll look shit too. Like the way Cunningham made him look clumsey in parts. Haye would have done that too him. Again fortunately for him there arent many heavies with that style anymore.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Fortunately for him there is fuck all good heavyweights who can move.

You have a point!

I want to say something that isnt pro Fury but I just cant fucking help myself! Im looking forward to seeing what difference being with Peter Fury will have on Chambers.

I think they are trying to push for Lucas Browne for Chambers in June on the Chisora v Fury bill. Chambers has good movement but hes too far down the road for Hearn to risk Joshua against. If he moves him as slow as Maloney did Price, he wont be fighting McDermott until 2016!

The danger with a fighter like Joshua or Wilder and Price is they are very good punchers but not very good fighters as they don't get the chance to learn.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Fortunately for him there is fuck all good heavyweights who can move.

You have a point!

I want to say something that isnt pro Fury but I just cant fucking help myself! Im looking forward to seeing what difference being with Peter Fury will have on Chambers.

I think they are trying to push for Lucas Browne for Chambers in June on the Chisora v Fury bill. Chambers has good movement but hes too far down the road for Hearn to risk Joshua against. If he moves him as slow as Maloney did Price, he wont be fighting McDermott until 2016!

The danger with a fighter like Joshua or Wilder and Price is they are very good punchers but not very good fighters as they don't get the chance to learn.

Is Chambers coming back to Heavy? Was hoping hed stay awhile at Cruiser.

I like seeing Joshua fight, I think he always looks good, his punch power always looks impressive and I agree that he will probably make fairly short work of this opponent. Hughie Fury's still got plenty more to learn, and at 19 I don't see the need for him to step up too quickly, nice small steps, with a little bit more progress with each fight.

Will be very interesting when Whyte gets back on the scene too!

He's serving his time well, giving Wlad and the Furys a hard time in sparring.

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Fortunately for him there is fuck all good heavyweights who can move.

You have a point!

I want to say something that isnt pro Fury but I just cant fucking help myself! Im looking forward to seeing what difference being with Peter Fury will have on Chambers.

I think they are trying to push for Lucas Browne for Chambers in June on the Chisora v Fury bill. Chambers has good movement but hes too far down the road for Hearn to risk Joshua against. If he moves him as slow as Maloney did Price, he wont be fighting McDermott until 2016!

The danger with a fighter like Joshua or Wilder and Price is they are very good punchers but not very good fighters as they don't get the chance to learn.

Is Chambers coming back to Heavy? Was hoping hed stay awhile at Cruiser.

Cjambers joined the camp weighing less than 200lb and now weighs 230lb. He said he was on a shit veggie diet to get down to cruiser and really weakened himself. Peter has got him a weight coach and nutritionist and hes now got his muscle back. They will then be cutting back the fat. Peter is getting him to throw more punches per round in training and sparring and has said hes not fighting until hes doing it in training.

Heres a picture from when he joined the vcamp and how he looks now.

Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

That guy took Chisora 9 rounds as well, I remember that fight. He should give Joshua rounds for sure.

I was at that fight. It was bloody awful. If it hadn't been so reasonably priced I'd never have gone.