Thread: Russia vs Ukraine..

Originally Posted by Gandalf

No, I haven't and that was my point. I am as on cue as ever and I see through your lies in an instant. You are not an Englishman. You are a new Englishman, but you are not an Englishman.

Coup - Snipers - Coup. "Greenbeanz'-oooh, Russian invasion. World....."

You are a shill, and you are offended at anyone not being such a shill.

It was a military coup and nobody in the real world sees your story, you faking charlatan.

Putin did the right thing, we should be commending him.

Who else would you like to commend ?

Saddam?

Assad?

Do you not see how always insisting that the complete opposite of the mainstream media's narrative is in itself, just as short sighted and myopic a view as swallowing everything that is fed to us?

Really I have never been so obvious in my thinking as you would like to think and neither am I the blind sheep that you would like to cast me as. Quite the opposite my entire life as an artist rests on an ability to think outside of the box and present new perspectives. Just because your frame of reference can seemingly only allow for two extreme dualities in direct polar opposite to each other does not mean that is how other people experience the world. I used to think like that but life has taught me otherwise.

I use to think that Demons were real and that everybody outside of the cult I was brought up in were one dimensional evil people already condemned to eternal death in a lake of fire. I used to think that the only real love in the world existed within that cult and the bosom of God. I now know otherwise and am not so easily duped by CNN or Putin that either narrative is exactly the whole truth. I have lived in a socialist commune in Italy and taken part in peace camps and marches all over the UK but that did not blind me to the fact that many people have so much invested in the veracity and truth of their own particular interpretation of reality that they sometimes miss the obvious things happening in front of their own eyes.

I think something big happening tonight, russia got some mad special super troops in Donetsk. and they got good attention.

Who cares if 85 % of Americans dont know where Ukraine's borders are on a map? neither does Vladamir Putin

Crazy how one man can have so much power..should have had undercover russian hitmen to just silence this situation as soon as possible and they should have done with hitler and stalin...how many will end up dying in this new war.

Originally Posted by imp

Crazy how one man can have so much power..should have had undercover russian hitmen to just silence this situation as soon as possible and they should have done with hitler and stalin...how many will end up dying in this new war.

Well we'll see if the klitschkos survive, Pretty sure the FN will do something about this.

Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Nothing bad could come of this eh....eh comrades?

Poland uneasy about Russian invasion after events in Ukraine | WashingtonExaminer.com

Just like old times comrades!

Budapest Convention of 1994: US, Great Britain, and Russia all signed a treaty saying if Ukraine got rid of nuclear warheads then those 3 parties would guarantee the territorial integrity of Ukraine.


That treaty is now null and void due to Russia's unprovoked invasion and annexation of Crimea




Buuuuut let's give sanctions more time eh? Allow them to kill some Jews before we get started eh? Right comrades?

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Nothing bad could come of this eh....eh comrades?

This is extremely disturbing.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

Nothing bad could come of this eh....eh comrades?

It is a despicable situation.

Are the Russians that stupid that they havent considered the start of the next big war could be the last big one ever on Earth? Its the only real thing thats stopped all the other insane fuckwits firing off more than their mouths over the last 20 or so years,even Nth Korea hasnt been that stupid to move on others land and thats saying something.

If its gets nasty in the ring the audience sometimes jumps in and has a shot at the fighters too hope this doesnt turn into that sort of senario becuase we 'the white Christian west' have many enemies that would love to see the back side of us for once; the gutless rat bastards.

Hello Lyle nice to see you back too.

Turns out terrorist don't just hide in caves eating goat. They sit on Cnn chain smoking and laughing at the rest of us, in ski masks. The propaganda and manipulation in order to cause tension and civil unrest is enough to make the other super powers blush. Apparently Putin has been taking notes. Just flash back and think how trumped up and pumped we all followed the bait and switch when we heard "Sad'am is the new Hitler and we can't wait for a MUSHROOM CLOUD " repeated 1001 times. Bunch of sheep. Its an amazing situation really. Fuck me..answers

Let's not sit back with the Western propaganda overdrive ringing in our ears and pretend that Russia caused this. Are we not forgetting that 5 billion pounds of US money has been spent creating unrest, that the democratically elected government was unjustly framed for killing protesters, and that what ensued was a coup that has brought in kleptocrats and neo Nazi's. What was Putin supposed to do? Sit back and allow his military interests in the Ukraine to be taken over. This is Russias border. What would America do if Putin forced the US out of Cuba? I doubt they would be so diplomatic. Russia gave the people of Crimea a vote, which is more than the people of Ukraine have had. The Ukraine has been taken over and their currency has depreciated against gold almost 70% since. No good can come of this and the people are quite aware of what a hell hole the EU is and of course Russians in the East are rising up and saying we don't want any part of this. It's a poor country anyway and it's being used as a pawn because the West is collapsing and need to divert attention with good old fashioned shenanigans and Putin demonising.

We aren't even trying to pretend to be the good guys here and it shows considerable portions of the Western media to be nothing more than slogan producers for the elite. The Daily Mail and its Royal family overdrive and claims that Russia is starting WW3 are particularly vile. Look closer to home for the real enemy, they are the ones reducing quality of life, and causing this around the world. Don't swallow their kool-aid. They need to create a new bogey man, we have seen this script before, don't follow it.

This is a topic that troubles me as the mainstream media simply does not correct its lies and errors. A German documentary has revealed quite clearly that the Ukrainian government DID NOT shoot protesters or even their own police. That was supposedly the catalyst for the coup, but it was an event that simply DID NOT happen according to the American and British narrative. There is a common pattern of snipers though in the countries that America wants to see toppled and in fact at one stage they were even considering snipers on the occupy movement and were in fact aiming snipers at the Bundy ranch. The snipers in the Ukraine was in essence one of Obama's WMD moments along with the Assad and chemical weapons line in Syria. We are telling lies and it is being revealed as such, but our media continues with the 'Russia bad, We good' mantra. It's following the same old patterns to a tee.

Where is the vote for the Ukrainian people to be free and to have a government by and for the people and for that alone. They should default on their national debts and start afresh. Nation after nation is in bondage to international finance and it is absurd considering the most powerful individuals don't pay any taxes and the most powerful countries only accumulate debt. But you the Ukraine must restructure and make the poor people poorer. It's sick and this whole nonsense about Putin is ludicrous. Nobody is listening to what the people of the country want and we should. It is their homeland.

And a final post before I depart to spring suns and parks of green and quacking ducks in an effort to escape the oppressive odor of geopolitics which I have to escape from as it casts a weary shadow upon my soul. Welcome back, Lyle.