Thread: All u Mayweather nut-huggers need to read this article....

A great piece of writing by The Nonpariel Hilario....check it out.



The Boxing Tour de France - Boxing.com

"The rematch Floyd secured with Jose Luis Castillo, facing Oscar Dela Hoya, Cotto, Mosley and recently taking on the young Saul Alvarez are the five performances this author credits."






This stuck out to me and is where I quit reading.


He doesn't credit the Corrales, Hatton, Judah or Gatti.


While I agree there are some other fighters Floyd could have fought and he is probably ducking Pac I respect what hes done in the sport.


Lets not forget how decisively Floyd has won virtually every fight except for maybe 1 or 2.


The author really pulls some straws with the points he trying to get across almost absurdly.

The article starts out with some points but then the tone changes and starts to reveal a true distane for all that is mayweather. Problem with the argument is it actually supports the mayweather philososphy of making money without taking punishment.

Believe it or not I always approach these anti-Floyd articles with an open mind, ready to concede that I was wrong and Floyd is, indeed, overrated who's talent is nothing special and career was carefully managed to get to 45-0.

But every time it's always the same old tired, uneducated, historically inaccurate rhetoric that only preaches to the converted.

This guy's a bum, that guy's a bum, that guy was too small, that guy wasn't a threat, the ref helped him beat that guy, that guy was washed up, that guy was drained, yadda yadda. There's an excuse for every single win Floyd has. According to the haters, the guy who won his first world title in 1998 and has been fighting other champions and top 10 contenders ever since (that would be, what, 16 years now?) has NEVER had a real fight in his life.

Apparently, in the time that Floyd started fighting, there have only been 3 REAL fighters: Pacquiao, Margarito, and Paul Williams. And because he knew he had no chance against those guys, that they would KO him quick (probably with one hand tied behind their backs), he shamelessly ducked them and fought nothing but stiffs.

Cool. Live in that fantasy world. Act like beating Ricky Hatton was no big deal, even though at the time people were saying Floyd would never fight Hatton because he was too good of a pressure fighter and undefeated. Act like Mosley was a total wash-up, even though he was coming off an utter destruction of the #1 guy at WW and was ranked higher than he had been in the past 9 years before he lost to Vernon Forrest twice.

Say he ducked Pacquaio even though he offered Pac 40 million to fight him, and Pac turned it down because he was afraid to take a drug test (his people later email Floyd during negotiations and asked a) what would the penalty be if Manny tested positive and b) if he tested positive, could it be kept a secret).

Live in that fantasy. It's a free world.

Originally Posted by cambay411

"The rematch Floyd secured with Jose Luis Castillo, facing Oscar Dela Hoya, Cotto, Mosley and recently taking on the young Saul Alvarez are the five performances this author credits."

Nice, so five performances? I wonder how many the author would credit to Ray Leonard?

Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, and.... who else?? Dicky Ecklund? Floyd Sr, who was never a champion?

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by cambay411

"The rematch Floyd secured with Jose Luis Castillo, facing Oscar Dela Hoya, Cotto, Mosley and recently taking on the young Saul Alvarez are the five performances this author credits."

Nice, so five performances? I wonder how many the author would credit to Ray Leonard?

Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, and.... who else?? Dicky Ecklund? Floyd Sr, who was never a champion?

Duran beat him first as well.

Floyd is the best boxer on earth and as a fan I find watching him in action as entertaining as any rocky type bloodfest fight.

Each to their own.

When you break down the skills he is on another planet and we still havent seen the best of floyd..floyd gives a B performance everytime and doesnt need to let A out of the bag just yet..if ever.

This author is making some points but I think some of the finer details are being omitted. Like Shane Moselys leap to welterweight when Mayweather and Judah wanted to fight him. Someone like Baldomir was an like an elimination of sorts. Judah was supposed to look great against Baldomir and then promote the fight with mayweather. As it happened Baldomir didnt read the script and beat judah.

Believe it or not this article is more about boxing than it is about mayweather. Its a sport but its also a profession. Mayweather's choice of opponents seems to be really about who he can keep the most money against and dictate the terms to. He went for guys that needed the money. 85% of a 100 million dollar fight is still more than 50% of a 150 million dollar fight. He fought the guys that didn't couldn't draw on their own, much of time. They needed the money and would make concessions to make the fight.This is why the pacquiao fight was never made. Mayweather wanted all the money and most of the power or all the Power and most of the money. He won't let our enjoyment get in the way of his ego and cash flow. (love him or hate him). He knew that if he hung in there long enough Pacquaio would lose or have some issue that would swing the argument in Mayweather's favor.... and eventually Manny would need him to make the fight like so many other people before. The problem is Manny is probably drawing just as much now as before the losses. The 0 doesn't mean as much as mayweather would like it to mean.

This is why many big fights aren't made now. The business of boxing gets in the way. It used to be that 2 guys would look to fight each other and make more than either of them have ever made. At the same time they could prove who was best. Now a days guys don't have to be exciting as long as people tuned in to see him possibly get knocked out.

The sportsmanship is an afterthought now. If a fighter could find a way to go out every week for millions and get beat almost to death but never get fully knocked out (to avoid mandatory rest time) and come back in the last second to ko his opponent to keep an unbeaten streak, he would. But that only happens in professional wrestling. I have to give Dana white credit for the Bonuses (KO/Submission of the night, etc) they tend to even things up for the guys that are rated on persona alone. You could have 0 personality and your opponent can be a star but if you Knock him/her out, you instantly netted more money and even things up a little.

i always thought money mayweather based his alter ego on shane macmahon from the wwf...