Thread: When Shane Mosley Rocked Mayweather in the 2nd Round

I just rewatched the fight a couple days ago

All we hear is "If Mosley was in his prime, he would have finished Floyd".

How are people so certain of this? Mosley was never a great finisher, even in his prime. He didn't exactly gas out until a couple rounds later. He was very fresh and spry in the early rounds. Add to the fact that Floyd had a solid chin, strong lower body, and balance unmatched by any other active fighter aside from Hopkins and Ward. Most other fighters would have gone down from that shot.

I think it was nothing more than wishful, "what-if" banter from Mayweather antagonists.

People who say that just don't understand boxing. It boggled my mind when I heard people talking about it like Mosley could have easily finished Floyd if he wasn't old, or he just "lost focus" and magically took his foot off the gas. A lot of boxing fans only understand boxing in it's simplest terms, ie "guy punch guy, guy knock out guy, ect". Anybody who has any real understand of boxing knows that Floyd got hurt and instantly made the necessary adjustments starting in round 3, which was controlling range and employing a steady pressure on Mosley while constantly looking to counter. Floyd was both the pressure fighter and the counter puncher, which is why he is so effective.

People say "ahhh well if Mosley just kept throwing punches he could have knocked Floyd out". Easier said than done. People don't seem to realize that these guys are human, and when Floyd is constantly pecking away and pot shotting, it's keeping guys off rhythm and making it hard for them to think. And when you got a defensive master with the hand speed and countering ability of Floyd, it fucks with your head and makes you apprehensive to throw.

Mosley didn't give away control of the fight, Floyd took control away from him.

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

Mosley was never a great finisher, even in his prime.

There's a washed-up, one-eyed has-been living in Tijuana that would have serious problems with this statement.

Not in a million years can Mosley finish Floyd.. Finish him, beat him, or whatever.. He's not doing any of that shit whether he's 25 or whenever.

Shane would have finished the job if he was younger? no he wouldnt have..

Mosley was never the smartest fighter and dumb, one trick ponies can not beat Floyd..

I was pissed he didn't end up in a bodybag.

Originally Posted by jahmez

I was pissed he didn't end up in a bodybag.

I was more pissed at Nosley for being incompetent. A great fighter would have followed up and finished the job.

Nosley has low boxing iq.

Shane not a great finisher? He sure as fuck finished Margarito in great fashion.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Shane not a great finisher? He sure as fuck finished Margarito in great fashion.

Yea because margarito was mentally out of the fight after realizing his glove had been tampered with.

Nobody in that position would be in ther right frame of mind.

Shane used to be a terrific finisher...in the late-1990s in his prime.

Shane fought Floyd in 2010, but 2 years before that, Shane was already well past it, getting outboxed by Ricardo freakin' Mayorga of all people in 2008, for $#!t's sake !!

Y'know that saying, "All Great fighters have one last Great one in them."
For a washed-up Shane, the Margarito job in 2009 was it.

Floyd's made a career out of picking opponents at just the right time, it's sickening.

Almost every opponent has excuses because of Floyd's handpicking. It's best to fight a guy at his best and beat him at his best, then there's no excuses. Floyd stacking the deck every time out has given every one of his opponents an excuse.

Mosley is a cautious fighter, always was and always will be. When he hurts an opponent, he does not jump on him with wild abandon, he keeps his distant while trying to land big shots.
Mosley is all about defence and fast accurate counters. There was no way in hell he was going to jump on Floyd in that situation. Floyd is always in great shape, so he was able to recover fast.
Over many years of watching fights, I've yelled at plenty of fighters for letting some other fighter off the hook, by being too cautious. In this case I don't know if Mosley did the right thing or not. It would have been dangerous but the payoff would have been enormous.

Originally Posted by bradlee180

Shane used to be a terrific finisher...in the late-1990s in his prime.

Shane fought Floyd in 2010, but 2 years before that, Shane was already well past it, getting outboxed by Ricardo freakin' Mayorga of all people in 2008, for $#!t's sake !!

Y'know that saying, "All Great fighters have one last Great one in them."
For a washed-up Shane, the Margarito job in 2009 was it.

Floyd's made a career out of picking opponents at just the right time, it's sickening.

Almost every opponent has excuses because of Floyd's handpicking. It's best to fight a guy at his best and beat him at his best, then there's no excuses. Floyd stacking the deck every time out has given every one of his opponents an excuse.

I don't want to get into your post because its a tired subject to pick apart. But pertaining to this thread you're saying Floyd picked Mosley at the right time? Do you remember Floyd calling out Mosley when he was a lightweight crushing everybody? Do you remember the footage of Mosley coming up with excuses? You can't just pick out what you want to be remembered and expect us to forget what the rest of the truth is. And as far as this bout after Mosley destroyed Margarito he wanted both Floyd and Pac. I remember when it was in negotiations a lot of people saying Floyd will avoid Mosley and even Freddie Roach is on video saying he won't take the fight. Also Freddie is on video saying that Pac won't fight Mosley unless its at a catchweight of 143 and Mosley said you fought Oscar at 147 and Freddie said but you're not Oscar, you're better. But getting rocked doesn't mean you're within the finish. Mosley was dropped by Forrest and Pac and never got finished. It takes a lot to finish a great fighter. There are countless examples where a great fighter was rocked/dropped and never got finished. How many times did a prime Pac rock or drop Marquez? But in 4 fights he never finished him. Unless its one of those Marquez-like bombs finishing a guy like Marquez or Floyd is near the impossible. Those types adjust too well. Heck, shortly after those 2 shots Floyd adjusted and won the rest of the round.

Mosley ducked Floyd in 06-07 as well. Floyd called him out after the vargas fight and his excuse was that he had a " toothache ". All this was said during the post fight interview with merchant from what I remember.

Maybe he said this knowing that his boss oscar was going to face floyd but regardless, he claimed what he claimed.

He could have gave a better excuse.

I was jumping for joy when Shane hurt Floyd, really thought he would finish him off but Floyd changed gears and Shane nearly got stopped himself with the flawless performance.

The blueprint for a fast accurate long defensive boxer like Mayweather, not that he was reading it, was all seen prior in Forrest x2 and Wright x2. Besides, if Mosley was in his prime he would not be fighting Mayweather It was always a case of fastest route is a straight line vs Mosley loading up behind that puff-puff throw away jab he showed too often.