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    After the fight, the purses for both fighters were withheld until video of the fight could be reviewed. Don King argued that Mayweather should have been disqualified because his uncle was the first person to enter the ring. At an April 13 hearing, the Nevada State Athletic Commission fined Roger Mayweather $200,000 and revoked his boxing license for one year. At a hearing on May 8, the Commission disciplined the other offenders in the melee. It fined Yoel Judah $100,000 and revoked his license for one year, fined Mayweather cornerman Leonard Ellerbe $50,000 and suspended his license for four months, and fined Zab Judah $350,000 and revoked his license for one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    After the fight, the purses for both fighters were withheld until video of the fight could be reviewed. Don King argued that Mayweather should have been disqualified because his uncle was the first person to enter the ring. At an April 13 hearing, the Nevada State Athletic Commission fined Roger Mayweather $200,000 and revoked his boxing license for one year. At a hearing on May 8, the Commission disciplined the other offenders in the melee. It fined Yoel Judah $100,000 and revoked his license for one year, fined Mayweather cornerman Leonard Ellerbe $50,000 and suspended his license for four months, and fined Zab Judah $350,000 and revoked his license for one year.
    So basically the NSAC cashed in BIG TIME and all was forgotten haha.

    Money makes the world go around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Boxing does not revolve around Floyd.

    Actually it kinda does.

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    Default Re: Does Floyd have more to lose than any other figher in history if he loses a fight

    I think you could also argue that Zabs low blow/rabbit punch combo was grounds for an immediate DQ, that was a complete thug move and he essentially quit right there to me.

    As for this thread, he empirically has less to lose than just about any fighter in history Practically every fighter in boxing save for a dozen or so guys is fighting for their entire life, their families well being, every time they step into the ring. Unless one would assume that some guy trying to climb up the rankings and make his first hundred thousand in the sport shouldn't be as worried about a life of destitution the way Floyd will the things we type about him, I think this thread is a bit off base

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyV297 View Post
    I ask this question all the time. Why is the mayweather-Judah fight never in question when Floyd's career is concerned? Zab controlled rounds, landed hard punches and was in there better than anyone else who has ever fought mayweather. He did have the fouls, but here is the largest question I have about that fight, Why wasn't Floyd DQ'ed when rogermayweather came into the ring ? Isn't that a DQ? I'm a Judah fan so maybe that's why I look at this differently but it gets hardly any attention and I have no idea why.
    Jab Judah is one of the worst losers I've seen. When things don't go his way in a fight he falls apart.
    Why wasn't Floyd DQed. HE was fouled. Floyd's uncle jumped in the ring. Floyd didn't do anything wrong except make Judah look bad. Judah was doing everything he could to get the fight stopped, a pretty damned cowardly display, in my opinion and you want to DQ Floyd. I'm not even a big Floyd fan, but that never entered my mind.
    Your corner can't just outright enter the ring during a fight. That's a DQ. Floyd fan or not. Fouls or not. You can't do that. Should've been a DQ Loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    After the fight, the purses for both fighters were withheld until video of the fight could be reviewed. Don King argued that Mayweather should have been disqualified because his uncle was the first person to enter the ring. At an April 13 hearing, the Nevada State Athletic Commission fined Roger Mayweather $200,000 and revoked his boxing license for one year. At a hearing on May 8, the Commission disciplined the other offenders in the melee. It fined r the o Yoel Judah $100,000 and revoked his license for one year, fined Mayweather cornerman Leonard Ellerbe $50,000 and suspended his license for four months, and fined Zab Judah sseem$350,000 and revoked his license for one year.


    Thanks for the information, I'm a stickler for the rules myself, as long as the fouled fighter does not get screwed. The Commission seems to have felt the same way. Good for them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyV297 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyV297 View Post
    I ask this question all the time. Why is the mayweather-Judah fight never in question when Floyd's career is concerned? Zab controlled rounds, landed hard punches and was in there better than anyone else who has ever fought mayweather. He did have the fouls, but here is the largest question I have about that fight, Why wasn't Floyd DQ'ed when rogermayweather came into the ring ? Isn't that a DQ? I'm a Judah fan so maybe that's why I look at this differently but it gets hardly any attention and I have no idea why.
    Jab Judah is one of the worst losers I've seen. When things don't go his way in a fight he falls apart.
    Why wasn't Floyd DQed. HE was fouled. Floyd's uncle jumped in the ring. Floyd didn't do anything wrong except make Judah look bad. Judah was doing everything he could to get the fight stopped, a pretty damned cowardly display, in my opinion and you want to DQ Floyd. I'm not even a big Floyd fan, but that never entered my mind.
    Your corner can't just outright enter the ring during a fight. That's a DQ. Floyd fan or not. Fouls or not. You can't do that. Should've been a DQ Loss
    Can't agree sir, why would you want the fouled fighter to be DQed, especially when the other people's actions and reactions are not under his control?

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    I agree Judah caused it by fouling but that doesn't give the fouled fighters corner an excuse to jump in the ring and cause a riot.

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    Default Re: Does Floyd have more to lose than any other figher in history if he loses a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Boxing does not revolve around Floyd.

    Actually it kinda does.
    Only in your dream world.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Does Floyd have more to lose than any other figher in history if he loses a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post

    Only in your dream world.
    Oh, silly me, I must have dreamt the fact that Mayweather generates more money for boxing than everyone else combined.

    I guess you're right. Mayweather is just another one of the guys...

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    Mayweather generates more money for Mayweather

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    Default Re: Does Floyd have more to lose than any other figher in history if he loses a fight

    I think he does. I'm not sure about historically, he will still be HOF and be cited in boxing as long as boxing exists but Floyd built a brand for himself and part of that brand is his 45 have tried and 45 have failed. In the short time it lessen the Floyd mystique and show he is human. I don't think he has to worry about losing against Maidana, I think Maidana will be flailing and punching at air similar to Canelo. Ad Floyd said part of his greatest is picking his fights and he will continue to do so. Despite that he is still an amazing at athlete, his new motto is TBE, the best ever. He will be remembered as one of the best ever. I don'tt like much about him but he is a wonder to watch in the ring. The boxing cold war has certainly helped Floyd but I think we the fans have missed out on a lot of fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    I agree Judah caused it by fouling but that doesn't give the fouled fighters corner an excuse to jump in the ring and cause a riot.

    I agree, but you can't have it both ways in this instance. If you want to follow the letter of the law, yes, there was a solid reason to DQ Floyd. If you want to follow the spirit of the law, you are not going to DQ a fouled fighter when he has no control over other people's actions.
    Judah continued to play the fool after the melee started, if he had done anything to quieten the situation down, his fine would have a lot less, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    I agree Judah caused it by fouling but that doesn't give the fouled fighters corner an excuse to jump in the ring and cause a riot.

    I agree, but you can't have it both ways in this instance. If you want to follow the letter of the law, yes, there was a solid reason to DQ Floyd. If you want to follow the spirit of the law, you are not going to DQ a fouled fighter when he has no control over other people's actions.
    Judah continued to play the fool after the melee started, if he had done anything to quieten the situation down, his fine would have a lot less, in my opinion.
    I'm sure the corners are aware that going up to the ring during the 3 mins will cause their fighter to be DQ'd. Now you can't bend the rules for fighters they should be strictly enforced. Trainer , second assist , or cut man jump into the ring its a automatic DQ. Now Judah's fouls should have called for a point deduction not a DQ at the moment. Was he warned for rabbit punches or low blows previous to that?

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    Default Re: Does Floyd have more to lose than any other figher in history if he loses a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Boxing does not revolve around Floyd.
    Actually it kinda does.
    No it doesn't, you idiot.

    No fighter, I REPEAT, no fighter is bigger than the sport.



    ...and just so you know, that idiot crack isn't a personal insult...


    It's the truth, and sometimes the truth hurts.

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