Thread: Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman would beat Mayweather's ass

Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

Maidana isn't a terrific athlete, but he is probably now much craftier than Porter or Thurman are, I wouldn't be confident either of those guys would improve on his success against Floyd just because they are more explosive.

Imagine if Floyd had never fought Canelo, would anyone not think he'd lose that fight were it being discussed today? Alvarez is more powerful than any of these guys, and it meant zilch. I would love to see Floyd fight Porter or Thurman though, and wouldn't favour him by much, don't get me wrong.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Maidana isn't a terrific athlete, but he is probably now much craftier than Porter or Thurman are, I wouldn't be confident either of those guys would improve on his success against Floyd just because they are more explosive.

Imagine if Floyd had never fought Canelo, would anyone not think he'd lose that fight were it being discussed today? Alvarez is more powerful than any of these guys, and it meant zilch. I would love to see Floyd fight Porter or Thurman though, and wouldn't favour him by much, don't get me wrong.

The thing is Canelo isn't fast at all. Hand speed is decent but he's foot work is to slow then it makes Maidana look like Floyd. That's the difference Shawn and thruman have speed power technique. Floyd would struggle I lf not lose. Garcia would be just like the canelo fight.

its not as much speed that floyd has trouble with but with awkward brawling. fighters like augustus, castillo, and maidana have been able to make the fight kind of ugly. if you cant make the fight ugly for floyd, you probably arent going to win. i just dont see thurman or porter being able to fight that fight.

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

its not as much speed that floyd has trouble with but with awkward brawling. fighters like augustus, castillo, and maidana have been able to make the fight kind of ugly. if you cant make the fight ugly for floyd, you probably arent going to win. i just dont see thurman or porter being able to fight that fight.

agree. They bang well, but they are predictable.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

Are you drunk?

Porter MAYBE...

Thurman I like better, but he doesn't bring the pressure.

Plus most fighters will not bring the fearless mentality into the ring that Maidana will.

Dude. Really man?

No.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

Listen asshole, I have a great track record of picking upsets, and if you don't believe me you can check my betting receipts.

I come from a long line of upset pickers. My older brother picked Douglas over Tyson and Pinckney over Jones. My dad picked Ali over Liston and Ali over Foreman. My grandfather had Turpin over Robinson. My great grandfather had Braddock over Baer and bet $40 (two weeks salary at the time) that Schmeling would knock out Louis.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

Listen asshole, I have a great track record of picking upsets, and if you don't believe me you can check my betting receipts.

I come from a long line of upset pickers. My older brother picked Douglas over Tyson and Pinckney over Jones. My dad picked Ali over Liston and Ali over Foreman. My grandfather had Turpin over Robinson. My great grandfather had Braddock over Baer and bet $40 (two weeks salary at the time) that Schmeling would knock out Louis.

The BOXING MESSIAH has returned!

interestingly shawn porter has a few good wins and then an impressive win over mallinagi and all of a sudden hes good enough to beat mayweather?

and it isn't just beanflicker that's saying this coz if it was we could obviously all just laugh

You know what? The sad thing is we're never going to find out if I'm right or wrong, because Mayweather is not going to fight either of these guys.

He'll fight Maidana which will be an easy win, he'll probably fight Khan, and then he'll close his career out against Manny Pacquaio, who is already washed up and will be even worse a year and a half or two years down the road.

And you idiots are going to let him do it because you want to see a fight that mattered 5 years ago.

Originally Posted by erics44

interestingly shawn porter has a few good wins and then an impressive win over mallinagi and all of a sudden hes good enough to beat mayweather?

and it isn't just beanflicker that's saying this coz if it was we could obviously all just laugh

People who a) know boxing and b) are intelligent look at more than just records and accomplishments. That shit is just ink on a page. When two men get in the ring, it's about three things: physical, mental, and style.

Mentally, Floyd dwarfs these guys. Physically, he has deteriorated and even though he has great style, he doesn't want to have to deal with the style and physicality of these young guys.

It makes no sense for Floyd, at 38, to fight these young hungry lions who have tremendous athletic ability. He doesn't want to fight these guys. He's old and only has a few fights left, and he wants to gracefully ride out into the sunset against guys he can eat up like Maidana and Pacman.

Beanflicker is going a bit mental in his old age with this bias poll.

I would prefer to see Thurman against Floyd next, at least he will do better and give it a go that Chino who is very limited.

I would not like to see Floyd fight Porter that would be too easy in comparison to the threat Thurman.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Manny Pacquiao is an old cheater and doesn't have the pop in his punches anymore. Maidana did good against Mayweather but Mayweather adjusted and took over the fight, and would likely just fight a boring fight in a rematch for an easy win. Those two fights are pointless.

Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman would beat the shit out of Mayweather because Mayweather isn't as sharp or quick as he was and can't run from these guys all night. And these guys have too much EXPLOSIVE power for Money May.

Maidana has power but he's not explosive.

A guy like Thurman will punch someones head off and he hits like a heavyweight.

I've personally never tried smoking crack...but clearly you have @Beanflicker. How do you like it and are you planning to use for the rest of your soon to be short life or are you just dabbling with it?

Beans is addicted to Hateraide.