Thread: Andre Ward will never be popular or an ATG

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

You are making too much out of those 2 rounds, what about the other 10. You could say the same thing about him in the Froch fight. Ward is good at what he does, he is the best.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

You are making too much out of those 2 rounds, what about the other 10. You could say the same thing about him in the Froch fight. Ward is good at what he does, he is the best.

When he got tired and he couldn't hold he had no technical ability to rely on.

Ward has had a more impressive run as 168 champ n beaten much better competition (in their primes). I think Ward has a good shot to become an ATG, he just needs guys to actually fight him. I used to doubt him but he proved himself to me in the Super 6 tournament. He beat very impressive competition and you know you are confident when you beat up Sakio Bika as a stay busy fight during the tournament.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.

Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.

Khan is a mini Ruiz

Joe was a min Carlos Molina.

You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.

Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.

Khan is a mini Ruiz

Joe was a min Carlos Molina.

You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.

lennox lewis

Mayweather has stepped it up over the last 5 to 10 fights. To me, he is no longer a 'boring' fighter.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.

Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.

Khan is a mini Ruiz

Joe was a min Carlos Molina.

You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.

lennox lewis

and Randy Turpin...Henry Cooper

Ya'll have too much heritige to hype trash like Joe Calzhage..ya'll should have had that guy killed years ago.

If I were British and wanted to jock somebody I'd start with Carl Froch
Now that's a fucking fighter

His main problem is that he tends to overthink....he has so many tools and trix up his sleeves that sometimes he gets caught in no-man's land.

He figured Ward out too late and ran out of rounds...I'd love to see the rematch..especially at Wembley.

Andre is leaving a lot of money on the table by not taking that fight in the UK.
One day he might regret it.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.

Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.

Khan is a mini Ruiz

Joe was a min Carlos Molina.

You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.

lennox lewis

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Master

Ward can become an ATG by his accomplishments in the ring and beating the best out there. He is the best at his weight and could move up to light heavyweight and dominate there once he has sorted his management issues out.

Mine and a few others argument is whithout the cheating he is mediocre. Watch the last two rounds against Bika.

Watch Calzhage vs Bika....Joe held more than Vlad and Carlos Molina combined.

Ya'll gotta' get over the butthurt feelings about Ward's dominance over Froch.

Not everyone blndly follows their fellow country men whooping and hollering like a cowboy with poor geography

I cant stand Froch and that "fight" was awfull.

If you want to compare fights, watch Kessler against Calzaghe and see what a good boxer is. Calzaghe outboxed and out punched rather than out mauled.

Ward s a mini John Ruiz.

Poor boxing heritage...it is why you guys are impressed with trash like Joke Calzhage.

Ward throws proper punches....Joe slaps and his combos have the motion of a drowning monkey.

Khan is a mini Ruiz

Joe was a min Carlos Molina.

You Brits can't produce shit in the form of a decent fighter.

lennox lewis

and Randy Turpin...Henry Cooper

Ya'll have too much heritige to hype trash like Joe Calzhage..ya'll should have had that guy killed years ago.

If I were British and wanted to jock somebody I'd start with Carl Froch
Now that's a fucking fighter

His main problem is that he tends to overthink....he has so many tools and trix up his sleeves that sometimes he gets caught in no-man's land.

He figured Ward out too late and ran out of rounds...I'd love to see the rematch..especially at Wembley.

Andre is leaving a lot of money on the table by not taking that fight in the UK.
One day he might regret it.

Froch could never beat Calzaghe, so why would we rave about Carl when he will never be the best at the weight?

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?

calzaghe has never been knocked out.

froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.

so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Poppycock.

Froch would catch cal-soggy.

Late ko.

As usual for carl.

Remind me how many times Joe Calzaghe has been knocked out? How many times has Froch been out boxed?

calzaghe has never been knocked out.

froch has been outboxed 2, maybe 3 times.

so what? Froch can cathc up and knock Joe out, about round 9 or 10. Are you saying its impossible?

In Boxing anything is possible but it is highly improbable.