Thread: Floyd's resume.

Originally Posted by Gandalf

Baldomir, Gatti, Brussel sprout. These are prime reasons why I cannot take Floyd seriously and then there are the fights calling people out once or twice above their own weight class. Floyd has about 10 flaws in his record since becoming champ for the first time. He's not the only one, but Calzaghe doesn't claim to be the best ever. Mayweather is fraudulent in that regard. Even Khan did better with Maidana.

So because he fought 3 questionable guys in 2005 and 2006, you can't take a guy seriously who's gone 18 years undefeated in the sport of boxing (including 16 years as a champ), has shown in-ring skills that are superior to anything we've seen since probably Sugar Ray Robinson, and drawn more money for boxing than anyone in the history of the sport?

And as far as Floyd calling out smaller guys... pretty much everyone Floyd fights is bigger than he is.

And do you know that back when Floyd was fighting at 130, he called out a 154 De La Hoya?

People ask me why I defend Floyd so much. I don't even like the guy, but he attracts a lot of ignorance.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by Master

If Floyd was not a true welter then why did he fight Hatton at welterweight? Floyd was a true welterweight that is the answer.

Why do you get hurt when people critique Floyds resume?

I don't get hurt. If someone says something stupid, I refute it.

When people say that Hatton was somehow diminished or not at his best because they fought at 147 instead of 140, that's stupid. It's completely idiotic when you put it up against common boxing knowledge.

And as far as Floyd being a true WW, that simply isn't true. He's a true WW in the sense that he is naturally 147, but that's not how boxing works due to weight cutting. A true WW is not a 147lb guy. A true WW is around or exceeding 160lbs. This has been shown with basically every "same day weight" statistic that HBO or another network has shown. Floyd is routinely out-weighed by upwards of 10lbs pretty much every time he fights.

He was outweighed by Ricky Hatton on fight day as well.

Stop being a smart ass. Hatton really struggled at welterweight when he fought there before his fight with Floyd. Hatton best weight was light welter, he was the undisputed champion at the weight. If Floyd was not a welterweight then he would have fought him at light welter.

Originally Posted by VG_Addict

How good would you say it is? I think it's pretty good. Even without fighting everyone, he still has wins over:

Canelo
Hatton
Marquez
Guerrero
Judah
Hernandez
Corrales
Manfredy
Cotto
Castillo

Judah had 2 losses in his last 6 when Floyd fought him, including his last fight, a decision loss to Baldomir

Hatton was extremely overrated; he beat Tszyu, but it would have been different in America, I don't think he would have been able to fight the same way, but that was about it. I mean he beat an old Castillo, but not an impressive win for Floyd

Marquez was very undersized, came up 2 weight classes, and Floyd didn't even make weight. Garbage

Genaro Hernandez was a very impressive win. He doesn't get enough credit for that one.

Corrales was also a very big notch in his belt.

Cotto was a good win, but again, Floyd only fought him after multiple losses and 2 knockouts. He should have fought him before Margarito. can't use the money excuse with that one. Cotto has always been a draw.

Floyd's ultimate knock has been he ducked guys. Didn't fight Cotto or Mosley in their prime, never fought Tszyu, Paul Williams or Margarito. Didn't fight Pacquiao.

I think he could have won all those fights, but we'll never know.

cc # 2 to the new guy Good break down. Except the Hatton not impressive win part. Floyds biggest fault there was picking up his ball and walking away for 2 years after ko. He lost momentum and a massive chance to sort out fellow players, cement legacy. I do think he came back on the cheap and bit of a "p4p" only grab with Marquez.

Originally Posted by BillyWaltersJr

Judah had 2 losses in his last 6 when Floyd fought him, including his last fight, a decision loss to Baldomir

Hatton was extremely overrated; he beat Tszyu, but it would have been different in America, I don't think he would have been able to fight the same way, but that was about it. I mean he beat an old Castillo, but not an impressive win for Floyd

Marquez was very undersized, came up 2 weight classes, and Floyd didn't even make weight. Garbage

Genaro Hernandez was a very impressive win. He doesn't get enough credit for that one.

Corrales was also a very big notch in his belt.

Cotto was a good win, but again, Floyd only fought him after multiple losses and 2 knockouts. He should have fought him before Margarito. can't use the money excuse with that one. Cotto has always been a draw.

Floyd's ultimate knock has been he ducked guys. Didn't fight Cotto or Mosley in their prime, never fought Tszyu, Paul Williams or Margarito. Didn't fight Pacquiao.

I think he could have won all those fights, but we'll never know.

Here's the thing, and I agree with a lot of your points don't get me wrong, but the problem is people look at fights that never happened and automatically say "Well Floyd obviously ducked them". That simply isn't true. There's a lot of revisionist history that goes on.

Cotto turned down a Mayweather fight when both guys were at 140.

Floyd called out Mosley CONSISTENTLY since 1999. It was Mosley who chose to move up in weight to fight DLH, and then he famously ducked Floyd once Floyd moved up. This has been documented. Another fact is that when Floyd fought Mosley, he was ranked higher than he had been since 2001 before Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright beat his ass twice each. He was never the man again until he whipped Margarito's (the #1 WW) ass, then he was on top again and Floyd fought him.

Most of these guys who people claim Floyd ducked or was afraid of, Floyd publicly called out.

It's all revisionist history. Before the Hatton fight, people said "ohh Floyd will never fight an elite pressure fighter like Hatton, he knows how much trouble he had against JLC and Hatton is a better pressure fighter than him, he won't be able to run from Hatton, Hatton's body work will wear Floyd down, ect."

Then Floyd wins: "Oh well Hatton sucked anyway. Actually it was the refs fault because he didn't let Ricky fight. Oh wait no it was because they fought at 147. If fat alcoholic Ricky was made to dehydrate himself to cut 7 more pounds, he would have performed better for some reason."

It's just silliness. Floyd is an asshole but give him his due, he is a brilliant boxer.

Its a record not a resume


a resume is something that gay people take to a dance audition

Originally Posted by erics44

Its a record not a resume


a resume is something that gay people take to a dance audition

Floyd has a good criminal record too.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by erics44

Its a record not a resume


a resume is something that gay people take to a dance audition

Floyd has a good criminal record too.

criminal record or resume?

Wtf are you talking about Eric is England have some weird shit for what resume is there. When you go to a job what do you call it if not a resume just wondering because in US it is pretty much what it is called. Do you people call your body of work records over there when you go to a job or something.

Originally Posted by Mr140

Wtf are you talking about Eric is England have some weird shit for what resume is there. When you go to a job what do you call it if not a resume just wondering because in US it is pretty much what it is called. Do you people call your body of work records over there when you go to a job or something.

you take a CV to a job interview
boxers have records
gay people have resumes

A CV what does that stand for i don't think i have heard of that when i go to a job interview. UK must have a different encyclopedia for words or something i guess why is resume gay or you just trolling. This must be a English think i don't get because i am from the US or you just fucking around.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by Master

If Floyd was not a true welter then why did he fight Hatton at welterweight? Floyd was a true welterweight that is the answer.

Why do you get hurt when people critique Floyds resume?

I don't get hurt. If someone says something stupid, I refute it.

When people say that Hatton was somehow diminished or not at his best because they fought at 147 instead of 140, that's stupid. It's completely idiotic when you put it up against common boxing knowledge.

And as far as Floyd being a true WW, that simply isn't true. He's a true WW in the sense that he is naturally 147, but that's not how boxing works due to weight cutting. A true WW is not a 147lb guy. A true WW is around or exceeding 160lbs. This has been shown with basically every "same day weight" statistic that HBO or another network has shown. Floyd is routinely out-weighed by upwards of 10lbs pretty much every time he fights.

He was outweighed by Ricky Hatton on fight day as well.

Stop being a smart ass. Hatton really struggled at welterweight when he fought there before his fight with Floyd. Hatton best weight was light welter, he was the undisputed champion at the weight. If Floyd was not a welterweight then he would have fought him at light welter.

Hatton had ample chances to fight Mayweather at 140...plus...Ricky is a bigger man than Floyd...so the WW excuse doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by erics44

Its a record not a resume


a resume is something that gay people take to a dance audition

Floyd has a good criminal record too.

So do you....for all we know

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by Master

If Floyd was not a true welter then why did he fight Hatton at welterweight? Floyd was a true welterweight that is the answer.

Why do you get hurt when people critique Floyds resume?

I don't get hurt. If someone says something stupid, I refute it.

When people say that Hatton was somehow diminished or not at his best because they fought at 147 instead of 140, that's stupid. It's completely idiotic when you put it up against common boxing knowledge.

And as far as Floyd being a true WW, that simply isn't true. He's a true WW in the sense that he is naturally 147, but that's not how boxing works due to weight cutting. A true WW is not a 147lb guy. A true WW is around or exceeding 160lbs. This has been shown with basically every "same day weight" statistic that HBO or another network has shown. Floyd is routinely out-weighed by upwards of 10lbs pretty much every time he fights.

He was outweighed by Ricky Hatton on fight day as well.

Stop being a smart ass. Hatton really struggled at welterweight when he fought there before his fight with Floyd. Hatton best weight was light welter, he was the undisputed champion at the weight. If Floyd was not a welterweight then he would have fought him at light welter.

Hatton had ample chances to fight Mayweather at 140...plus...Ricky is a bigger man than Floyd...so the WW excuse doesn't work.

I don't mind that Floyd fought Hatton at welter but the fact remains that he should have fought Tszyu while he was at 140