Thread: What is Al Haymon Planning?

Originally Posted by Master

Another promoter who will build his own empire and not make the best fight out there because he will not work with other promoters. Great.

Thank you M! That was exactly my point earlier. Lost in all the debate about fighter X and fighter Y and who is promoting who.... is the bigger picture. Who the hell needs another big dog in the yard fighting over the same bone?? Boxing loses in the overall scheme of things.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

What do people think of Hauser's article on Haymon's next moves?

Anybody that reads Hauser is a trick.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

I think he's good for boxing. He's gotten better fights done for his fighters then TR and GBP combined. I can see him starting a Welterweight tournament after Floyd retires to determine the best Welterweight in the world. He has Danny ,Thurman, Porter ,Broner ,Matthysse and more.

Yes, but look at who they are facing now: Garcia faced Herrera and now faces Salka (who?) when he could face Peterson. Broner and Matthysse aren't facing each other when they could be. Porter and Thurman aren't facing each other when they could be.

Good for the fighters but bad for the fans?

Look at all the trash GGG fights.
Is he with Haymon

Manny is fighting ALGERI.

He must be with Haymon too.

Originally Posted by Master

Another promoter who will build his own empire and not make the best fight out there because he will not work with other promoters. Great.

Haymon is not a promoter...trick.

What is wrong with ya'll

So seems like that genius cylone posted three posts in a row but I luckily don't have to read em since he's blocked but let me guess it was something like

"racist racist against the black man if haymon was white you all would be kissing his ass and saying how great he is, oh and GGG sucks, garry russell would move up and whip his ass"

Promoters are all the same, remember when GBP came on the scene a few years ago and was going to fix what's wrong with boxing...Haymon must have some extreme business savvy to go from being a sucessful dude in the music world to basically having half the top fighters in his corner...I have to agree with Rant lately he's not making the big ones, nor has he really been known for it hell berto was headlining cards on hbo against volunteer firefighters and kindergarten teachers...

Originally Posted by armin

So seems like that genius cylone posted three posts in a row but I luckily don't have to read em since he's blocked but let me guess it was something like

"racist racist against the black man if haymon was white you all would be kissing his ass and saying how great he is, oh and GGG sucks, garry russell would move up and whip his ass"

Promoters are all the same, remember when GBP came on the scene a few years ago and was going to fix what's wrong with boxing...Haymon must have some extreme business savvy to go from being a sucessful dude in the music world to basically having half the top fighters in his corner...I have to agree with Rant lately he's not making the big ones, nor has he really been known for it hell berto was headlining cards on hbo against volunteer firefighters and kindergarten teachers...

that is pretty much what he said without the Russell part lol

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

I don't even see why Al has to be evil.

Fighters of all races are lined-up around the block to sign with him.

Haymon believes in taking a small amount from a lot of fighters as opposed to raping the shit out of a few.

He looks out for his guys...even if you lose,he still gets you good fights.

Look at Trout.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

I don't even see why Al has to be evil.

Fighters of all races are lined-up around the block to sign with him.

Haymon believes in taking a small amount from a lot of fighters as opposed to raping the shit out of a few.

He looks out for his guys...even if you lose,he still gets you good fights.

Look at Trout.

1)who gives a shit about race? It's about competition

2)let's not act like he takes a small cut for charitable reasons. He takes a smaller cut because he finds other revenue streams. He's still getting his

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

I don't even see why Al has to be evil.

Fighters of all races are lined-up around the block to sign with him.

Haymon believes in taking a small amount from a lot of fighters as opposed to raping the shit out of a few.

He looks out for his guys...even if you lose,he still gets you good fights.

Look at Trout.

1)who gives a shit about race? It's about competition

2)let's not act like he takes a small cut for charitable reasons. He takes a smaller cut because he finds other revenue streams. He's still getting his

I didn't say he wasn't getting his fella'..

Calm your ass down.

You are the one that said sometimes he doesn't take anything.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

I don't even see why Al has to be evil.

Fighters of all races are lined-up around the block to sign with him.

Haymon believes in taking a small amount from a lot of fighters as opposed to raping the shit out of a few.

He looks out for his guys...even if you lose,he still gets you good fights.

Look at Trout.

1)who gives a shit about race? It's about competition

2)let's not act like he takes a small cut for charitable reasons. He takes a smaller cut because he finds other revenue streams. He's still getting his

I didn't say he wasn't getting his fella'..

Calm your ass down.

You are the one that said sometimes he doesn't take anything.

I don't need to calm down. Making everything about race gets old.

I should have been more clear when I said sometimes he doesn't take a cut, I meant sometimes he doesn't take a cut of the purse.

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Not sure where this idea Haymon won't work with some promoters comes from but it isn't based in truth. Haymon doesn't like matching his guys up so he has to work with promoters. Matching his guys is a last resort or he does it in an everybody wins scenario. Promoters refusing to work with him isn't his fault. Just because they are stuck with mob taught methods and he's bringing new revenue streams he can offer fighters better deals. The old guard uses the "you don't have a choice method" and Al uses the "this is their deal, this is what I can offer you" method. Promoters don't want to offer a fair deal or think of new ways to generate money so they don't like Al. But they hurt themselves if they freeze him out.

I'm rather certain Al is just as evil as anyone else making money in the sport but his fighters get a larger percentage of the money they earn. Sometimes Al doesn't even take a cut. That's better than the rest.

I don't even see why Al has to be evil.

Fighters of all races are lined-up around the block to sign with him.

Haymon believes in taking a small amount from a lot of fighters as opposed to raping the shit out of a few.

He looks out for his guys...even if you lose,he still gets you good fights.

Look at Trout.

1)who gives a shit about race? It's about competition

2)let's not act like he takes a small cut for charitable reasons. He takes a smaller cut because he finds other revenue streams. He's still getting his

I didn't say he wasn't getting his fella'..

Calm your ass down.

You are the one that said sometimes he doesn't take anything.

I don't need to calm down. Making everything about race gets old.

I should have been more clear when I said sometimes he doesn't take a cut, I meant sometimes he doesn't take a cut of the purse.

I said Haymon can't be that evil(as you claimed) if figthers of all races want to sign with him.

If that's what you call making it about race you must be sitting on Rush Limbaugh's lap or some shit.

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

I think he's good for boxing. He's gotten better fights done for his fighters then TR and GBP combined. I can see him starting a Welterweight tournament after Floyd retires to determine the best Welterweight in the world. He has Danny ,Thurman, Porter ,Broner ,Matthysse and more.

Yes, but look at who they are facing now: Garcia faced Herrera and now faces Salka (who?) when he could face Peterson. Broner and Matthysse aren't facing each other when they could be. Porter and Thurman aren't facing each other when they could be.

Good for the fighters but bad for the fans?

Look at all the trash GGG fights.
Is he with Haymon

Manny is fighting ALGERI.

He must be with Haymon too.

Once again, I'm not sure what your point is. First, one wrong doesn't make a right, but at least you agree that Garcia-Salka is a farce and that Quillin hasn't languished since beating N'Jikam. I'm glad we're on the same page. Second, Haymon has practically the entire junior welterweight and welterweight division under his banner so there is nothing stopping him from making better fights between his fighters there.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by cyclone

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

I think he's good for boxing. He's gotten better fights done for his fighters then TR and GBP combined. I can see him starting a Welterweight tournament after Floyd retires to determine the best Welterweight in the world. He has Danny ,Thurman, Porter ,Broner ,Matthysse and more.

Yes, but look at who they are facing now: Garcia faced Herrera and now faces Salka (who?) when he could face Peterson. Broner and Matthysse aren't facing each other when they could be. Porter and Thurman aren't facing each other when they could be.

Good for the fighters but bad for the fans?

Look at all the trash GGG fights.
Is he with Haymon

Manny is fighting ALGERI.

He must be with Haymon too.

Once again, I'm not sure what your point is. First, one wrong doesn't make a right, but at least you agree that Garcia-Salka is a farce and that Quillin hasn't languished since beating N'Jikam. I'm glad we're on the same page. Second, Haymon has practically the entire junior welterweight and welterweight division under his banner so there is nothing stopping him from making better fights between his fighters there.

Champs have fought easy defenses long before Al Haymon....look at tito's title defenses...look at GG's title defenses if you want a good laught.

Two wrongs don't make a right.....true....just don't whine when a Haymon fighter takes an easy fight.

Hell

I've heard some of you motherfucker say "__________ deserves and easy fight"..
or

"it's just a stay busy fight"

Give Garcia the same room you give GG....at least Garcia isn't 32 fucking years old.

GGG isn't getting seven-figure paydays.