Thread: Jet airliner shot down in Eastern Ukraine

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

the sheer evil of this event ranks up there with all the rest of them in history. What on Earth does a Malaysian passenger jet---Boeing 777, that huge bird of power that I only rode on 1 time from San Francisco to Incheon, South Korea----what a monster that 777 is, -----WHAT ON EARTH DOES THAT HAVE TO DO TO FURTHER ANYBODY'S FUCKING AGENDA IN UKRAINE OR RUSSIA

Triggers are made to pull on and buttons are made to push mate. Small minds with big agendas.

Originally Posted by Andre

What happened, did Obama say something stupid about this?

Apparently.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Let's see what Dear Leader Obama has to say.....


"I 'lose my mind' if I have a bowl of chips and guacamole"



I am in awe of the brilliance of the man

Originally Posted by Andre

What happened, did Obama say something stupid about this?

Yup....spent all of 30 seconds on the topic.

The Russians shoot down a passenger plane and he spends 30 seconds on it....but you know he's got more important things to do.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Lyle, Obama has nothing to do with anything. It is quite clear now that he is the fall guy and will be hung out to dry, but he is not a Russian separatist. Just wait though, Miles and Kirkland will be along shortly to blame it on the west as though evil men only exist on one side of a man made political divide.

Oh I'm sorry.... what SHOULD one expect from the leader of the free world? But hey, if you and everyone else want to give him a pass that's not just fine that's change I can believe in!


When the fuck is anyone going to expect Obama to act like an adult?!?! How about you look up what Reagan said after that South Korean airliner went down... THAT was a leader!

Your President is not the leader of the Free World and neither was Reagan. Reagan was a complete numpty who could not even learn his lines when he was an actor, The guy had to be led by a cast iron bitch woman in Thatcher to get anything done. Your claims seemed completely fabricated and outrageous when I first read them and now I know why. You have been hoodwinked by Fox News. Obama actually called the incident what it is, "an "outrage of unspeakable proportions" and Reagan actually took four days to respond to the Korean airliner tragedy, having to be coaxed from his ranch back to Washington.

On Heels Of Tragic Plane Crash, Fox Rewrites Reagan's Legacy In Effort To Jab Obama | Blog | Media Matters for America

Hundreds of people are dead because some Idiots from Russia and the Ukraine shot at a plane in a civil war without using a Radar to identify it as a passenger airliner and not a plane full of troops or carrying a payload. That means the people who fired it and those who gave the orders to do so should be held culpable, right the way up to the Kremlin if it can be proved. It is not the fault of Obama or the West. The Dutch and other innocent civilians from around the world killed in this deserve that the truth be uncovered. That is no excuse to use efforts made in finding that truth, as a political football.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Let's see what Dear Leader Obama has to say.....


"I 'lose my mind' if I have a bowl of chips and guacamole"



I am in awe of the brilliance of the man

What he actually said first was

"Before I begin, obviously the world is watching reports of a downed passenger jet near the Russia-Ukraine border. And it looks like it may be a terrible tragedy. Right now we’re working to determine whether there were American citizens on board. That is our first priority.''And I've directed my national security team to stay in close contact with the Ukrainian governemnt. The United States will offer any assistance we can to help determine what happened and why. And as a country, our thoughts and prayers are with all the families and passengers, wherever they call home. "

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Not such a snappy character destroying sound bite though is it? FFS it's really coming to something if I have to defend the US President.

It's bad taste to use this as a drum to beat an already well known tune.
Obama is not relevent here.

Putin on the other hand...

Looting the dead and carrying away selected corpses to god knows where. This isn't about the convenience of politics but everything to do with insanity and savagery of man.

So sickening, anyone more up to date on what these cavemen might have thought they were doing? Last I heard it looked like Russian Militia had stolen the missile from the Ukraine and didn't even realize they were firing on a civilian jet Would almost be nicer to think there was a greater conspiracy, in that something might be done about it.. But even then, who is about to make anything stick and go after Putin... NATO?

Originally Posted by ryanman

It's bad taste to use this as a drum to beat an already well known tune.
Obama is not relevent here.

Putin on the other hand...

Who will stand up to Putin? W didn't and now Obama isn't...this is my point.

Lol whats Obama supposed to do invade? Nothing like ww3 to calm the planet down.

I'm glad GW is not at the helm or he'd invade Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Andre

What happened, did Obama say something stupid about this?

Yup....spent all of 30 seconds on the topic.

The Russians shoot down a passenger plane and he spends 30 seconds on it....but you know he's got more important things to do.

What should he have said before he went off?

This will probably blow over and a couple of people will do ten years playing chess in some airconditioned compound over it and the Ruskies pay compensation.

I recon the other Malaysian jet that went down could be in the SW part of the China sea around where the Chinese navy were parading their new destroyers ,fishermen said they saw a flash in the sky then nothing .

The evidence is mounting and pretty damning

Malaysia Airlines MH17 crash: Evidence mounting of pro-Russian link to attack - Europe - World - The Independent

Of Course the machine has swung into action

‘Anonymous International’ Leaks Kremlin’s Instructions to Russian TV · Global Voices

Don't kid yourself and think that the sheltering of Snowden means that Russia is some kind of champion of liberty

Russia cracks down on liberties as president Vladimir Putin’s popularity soars - World - The Boston Globe

We do not know for sure who shot down the plane. Russia has presented a case arguing the plane was being followed, it was flying over a war zone and government weapons had been moved. At the same time, rebels could have shot it down too. The truth is, we just don't know the answers and that is why the British and American media have been awful and out of control. 'It Putin....It Putin....Cameron: More sanctions!'. Are these people fucking serious? Yo Dave, did you forget Syria and Libya and your attempts for war there, ya cunt? 5 tr in debt, and fat Dave still thinks he matters. Pathetic.

There was no motivation or anything to gain by the rebels shooting down a plane. There is a lot to gain by the Ukrainies doing it and blaming the rebels. Let's not forget too that the BRICS proposed their alternative to the IMF a day before also. Basically the petrodollar is under attack and the role of the IMF is under attack. It is a very timely opportunity to demonise Putin, who is clearly a threat.

The problem for the absurd media and politicians now is that their lies don't work. People have plenty of other sources for news and they are credible sources. I honestly turn on the TV and just mock it constantly. It doesn't provide anything factual or useful. It simply says we need to deal with Putin. Very similar to Iraq.

Fuck them, they started a coup and then started killing people who wanted no part of it in the East. NATO has no right to be on Russias border and really America is trying to provoke a new Cuban missile crisis. The fact that they are collapsing economically, and don't even hide how they fund terrorists, nothing is beyond them. Right now the dollar is going down and the US elite are panicking.

Personally, I think we will discover that the Ukrainian government shot down the aircraft in an attempt to gain attention and sympathy and as a justification to wipe out the East who would be blamed. It is going to blow up in their faces and that US economic collapse is looking ever more likely.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by ryanman

It's bad taste to use this as a drum to beat an already well known tune.
Obama is not relevent here.

Putin on the other hand...

Who will stand up to Putin? W didn't and now Obama isn't...this is my point.

Why should anyone stand up to Putin? He is behaving as he should. His middle class is growing, he has good relations with his friends, is starting a rival to the IMF.

The man knows how to develop a society. Obama knows quite the opposite. Who were the communists supposed to be?