Thread: Quite angry about Ebola coverage

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?


Kirkland....Africa might be lining up to do business with China but notice how Africa on the whole isn't getting much freer, fairer, and better for the people that live there....but you know the commies will remedy that the way they always do......oh that's right they never have.....ever.....in the entire history of man.

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News from The Associated Press

Hmmm, AdamGB it seems the World Health Organization says Ebola is...and I quote "Modern era's WORST health emergency"....doesn't instill a lot of confidence

Originally Posted by El Kabong

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?


Kirkland....Africa might be lining up to do business with China but notice how Africa on the whole isn't getting much freer, fairer, and better for the people that live there....but you know the commies will remedy that the way they always do......oh that's right they never have.....ever.....in the entire history of man.

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Like I said there's lots of information out there. The more you read the less likely you'd make that claim. Just don't get a screw loose while you're doing it.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Like I said there's lots of information out there. The more you read the less likely you'd make that claim. Just don't get a screw loose while you're doing it.

Yeah information about how great the West African nations are handling this Ebola epidemic....that's why we haven't seen it spread to Europe and the US......oh wait

Letts be honest if Africa can't feed it's people, they can't see to peoples health simple facts,
there is abject poverty no health care as to speck of, and poor education.
In the West we suffered with the same issues, but it takes years to eradicate theses issues,
in the West we had many nasty health issues, but through health care and education we
overcame them.

Africa has a big problem with Ebola, hopefully a vaccine can be produced to help sort out
this but it's not going to happen over night.
There are many nasty viruses etc, out there Ebola is one of one trouble is there is always
one round the corner waiting.!

They say Alcohole is the solution!

Just yesterday we had a suspected case end up at Yale Hospital here in the US. So of course the governor and his minions had all day long press conferences spouting out how well prepared our State of Connecticut is to handle such a crisis. Once again the suspected case proved out to be negative for Ebola. Enough, stop reporting suspected cases. Flu season is coming up and last year the flu killed fifty two thousand people in the US. This is akin to Brock reporting every time he thinks he has crabs or other STD. Once we have a confirmed case let us do what needs to be done. I am not belittling the illness but reporting suspected cases is not helping the general public

It seems to be taking our minds of other things.

Originally Posted by Scrap

It seems to be taking our minds of other things.

It is. Have you seen what they are calling thick sliced bread these days ? you couldn't keep a cat-flap open with it let alone make a doorstop sandwich.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?

The answer is in the question... We'll just take her at her word that she followed the procedures to the letter and without error though?

I wonder how many other staff members in dallas on this case DIDN'T get it?

In other news, out of the 48 people quarantined in Texas, something like 42 have been released after 21 days... No Ebola, expect the rest soon.

The WHO said a lot of shit about Swine Flu too, here we are.

Originally Posted by AdamGB

Originally Posted by El Kabong

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?

The answer is in the question... We'll just take her at her word that she followed the procedures to the letter and without error though?

I wonder how many other staff members in dallas on this case DIDN'T get it?

In other news, out of the 48 people quarantined in Texas, something like 42 have been released after 21 days... No Ebola, expect the rest soon.

The WHO said a lot of shit about Swine Flu too, here we are.

Yes but this outbreak of Ebola has a fatality rate of 70%....so yeah, there's that.

As for the CDC procedures and blaming the nurse...when a woman gets raped are you the kind of person to ask what she was wearing? Because that argument, kind of similar to what you are implying with your rebuttal.

Come on Lyle... Does it always have to devolve into strawman arguments with you?

I'm not questioning it's fatalness, I'm questioning it's contagiousness...
I'm not blaming the nurse, I'm not saying she deserved to become infected. I don't think fire fighters deserve to burn or that woman deserve to be raped what's wrong with you?

You using her misfortune to somehow prove that ebola is more contagious than it is and frequently gloating everytime a person is killed with anything other than a gun is better how exactly?

Firefighters etc don't do it because they think there's no risk to them, they do it inspite of the risks!... that's WHY we comend them, they're doing a job with inherent risks for the betterment of society... How exactly do you go from that to me rape blaming?

My point is that a healthcare worker that is in frequent and prolonged contact with somebody in the severest stages of ebola contracting it doesn't prove a great deal about it's risk to the general population of 1st world countries.

You're intellgent enough to understand what I'm saying within the context of this discussion with out me having to point out that I'm not blaming the nurse, right?

The nurse (nurses plural at this point) was doing her job...and you're alleging A) she didn't adhere to the protocols and B ) you assume the protocols are 100% effective so the argument you are making is that she did something which caused her to get infected by Thomas Eric Duncan. The only thing these nurses did were their jobs! They were caring for a dying man and now they get a horrible disease which hopefully they can recover from but how dare people criticize them for what they've done.

I'm saying Ebola is a NEW threat to the United States and perhaps the CDC didn't have the hospitals prepared for such an outbreak and it is LOW to criticize a person who was attempting to care for someone in their time of need. Nurses put their lives on the lines every day in regards to contagious diseases without a second thought.

Ebola is not airborne just yet, but there were 3 phases of The Black Death and those got exponentially more fatal as the disease mutated from Bubonic (animal transmitted), Septicemic (blood to blood), and Pneumonic (airborne) and we will likely see the same happen with Ebola. Whether it happens NOW or later depends on how we handle the current outbreak. I personally find it horrible that the President of the United States did not call for a travel ban the way the African nations have with the afflicted areas. Government has been extremely slow to react and it may very well cost people their lives.

Dallas Nurse Caught Ebola Because CDC Protocols Are Inadequate Washington's Blog

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed - LA Times


I don't blame the nurses for doing their jobs I blame Thomas Eric Duncan for being selfish in returning to America. He endangered the people he flew with, the people they came in contact with, the nurses, doctors, and everyone they came in contact with, not to mention his own family and everyone THEY had seen and that's regardless of CDC protocols being followed to the T.

I'm not assuming that she did or didn't follow them to the letter Lyle... The possibility that she didn't needs to be considered and the point that she got infected due to a frequent and high level of contact with a victim that far exceeds that of the general public is no less valid. Out of the handful of cases contracted in the US, how many of them are healthcare workers? All of them. At this point they are the ones at risk.

Who is criticising nurses? AGAIN they are selflessly doing a difficult job that comes with an exceptional level of risk. I don't blame or criticise them for making mistakes... they're humans doing a high pressure job. Can we not talk about this pragmatically though?

In the 8000+ cases in West Africa, it has shown no signs of mutation, it's not going to in one nurse. Stop panicking.

Mark my words, you won't see ebola in any notable outbreak (if any) in the general western public.

The media will listen to which ever 'expert' gives them a scary headline or allows them to point fingers at whoever their agenda is against.

This species is o fucked up. So enamored with consumption. Oceans 90% fished out and 50% of all other life destroyed in about 50 years and we merrily roll along. The only other thing that seems to sustain us is killing each other to ensure that consumption. What a sad commentary on evolution.