Thread: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

1971

After 'whooping' Muhammad Ali in March 1971.

Yancey 'Yank' Durham was looking to line up Jimmy Ellis for an August/September 1971 date.

A rematch between the '2' would have interesting for an 'After Summer 1971 Go'.

Jimmy had 'temporarily' retired after getting demolished by 'Smokin Joe' on February 10, 1970.

But, Jimmy came back 9-Months later {November 10, 1970} and looked good in stopping {TKO 7} Peruvian Heavyweight
Champion - Roberto Davila.

Also, Jimmy had spent time working out with Muhammad Ali in late-1970 and early-1971, as well as tutoring 'Hot Prospect' - Jeff 'Candy Slim' Merrit
in Florida at the Fifth Street Gym.

Jimmy regained 'attention' when he stopped {TKO 10} 'Irish' Tony Doyle on March 2, 1971 in Miami Beach. At the time, Tony Doyle was the #10 WBA
Heavyweight, and was a one-time conqueror of Joe Frazier in the Amateurs.

You should give us another round by round of the fight.

Originally Posted by X

What an odd post/thread to start.


If Herbie Hide had retired before fighting Vitali ......

With the other examples you used that is pretty odd point too!

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

'Smokin Joe' Frazier

'Lil' Joe,

After dismantling and crashing Muhammad Ali in March 1971, Joe was really not interested in
continuing with Boxing anymore.

Bouts with;
Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Ellis, Jose L. Urtain and Jerry Quarry were discussed for late-1971 and 1972.

Experts agree, had 'Smokin Joe' retired in mid-1972, he would have been considered as one of the
Top 5 Heavyweights of All Time.

Bill Paxtom

'Lil' Bill,

After dismissing and seeking to diminish Muhammad Ali in 2014, 'Little Man syndrome' Bill was really not interested in
continuing with discussing Boxing anymore.

Bouts with;
Master, Brockton, Dia and Greynotsoold were discussed for late-2014 and early 2015.

Experts agree, had 'Lill Diamond Lill Bill' retired in mid-2014, he would have been considered as one of the
Top 5 worst posters of All Time.

"Lill Diamond Lill Bill"-------BBBWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

Yancey 'Yank' Durham

February 25, 1971 ~

After Joe 'smashes' Ali in 2-Weeks, we'll take on the winner of the Jimmy Ellis - Tony Doyle bout.
To be held on Tuesday Night ~ March 2, 1971 down in Miami Beach, Florida.

Joe really wants to finish off Jimmy. Even worse than he did last February 16, 1970 in Madison Square Garden
when he stopped Jimmy who could not come out for Round 5.

Jimmy has come back, and he looked pretty good on November 10, 1970 when he stopped {TKO 7} that big Peruvian
Roberto Davila

As for Tony Doyle, he was the last fighter to whip Joe {before losing to Buster Mathis in 1964}. Tony spanked Joe pretty
good back in 1964.

Joe took out Tony {TKO 2} back on October 17, 1967 ~ to 'Even' the score at 1-1. But Joe wants Tony one more time, to
end any questions.

We can fight the winner of that bout in the late-Summer {1971}, probably in August.

The Ali fight did not allow him to fight that quickly. He lost the title and never reclaimed it again.

Actually,

March 8, 1971 ................ Fight of the Century

Late-April 1971 .............. Joe Frazier was preparing with his Musical Revue

May 2, 1971 .................. Joe Frazier and the Knockouts perform at the Winterland Theatre in San Francisco

May 16, 1971 ................ Joe Frazier and his Musical Revue hit the road........ and arrive in Europe.

http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1...2006036290.jpg

Joe Frazier was more than capable of fighting {and defeating} Jimmy Ellis in August 1971.
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May 1971

Joe Frazier

"Everybody asks me if I'm too worn out to fight again. Look, I go 45-Minutes non-stop when I'm up on stage. And with no breaks or
rests. Sometimes 2-Shows per Night. My weight is at 208 lbs., and my legs are as strong as ever with all the moves I make up on stage.
Give me 3-Weeks in the Gym, and I'll be able to take on King Kong."

"I will be ready to fight anyone in 3-Months. I'll fight Clay {Muhammad Ali] again if he wants another fight. I beat him once, and I'll beat him again.
On George Foreman, it's too early for him. I'll take him on if wants to challenge me, but he would be wise to have another 6-Fights to get more
experience. Oscar Bonavena wants another fight, but I have fought him twice. I'm not sure the public wants a third fight."

"I want take on Jimmy Ellis again, maybe at the end of August 1971. He's ranked as the #2 WBA Heavyweight, and he looked good in beating {KO 10}
#10 WBA-ranked Tony Doyle down in Miami. He's fighting George Chuvalo on May 10th, and if he looks good then I'll definitely offer him
another opportunity with me."