Thread: Frampton already blaming Hearn if the Quigg fight does not happen

I’ll only fight Quigg once - Frampton - UTV Live Sport

"...recently crowned IBF World Champion Frampton says Hearn needs to take a step back."I would love to fight Quigg but the only stumbling block I see is his promoter getting involved too much," claimed Frampton.
"I hold the legitimate world title, I bring the fans, myself and Cyclone Promotions are in the driving seat so Eddie Hearn needs to remember that before he starts talking money"

Seriously the Guy is starting to believe his own hype and seems to be lining up the excuses already. You can hear Mcguigan in everything he says. How can he seriously accuse a promoter of" being involved too much" when he has the opportunity of making some serious money and domestic boxing history in the process.

I've nothing against Frampton, but has been well and truly brainwashed by McGuigan. However, one day he is gonna wake up and smell the coffee and realise that the decisions being made aren't necessarily being made that are best for him, but that are best for McGuigan.
He moved from Matchroom because McGuigan wanted to manage and promote and Hearn was having none of it.
Even if Quigg vs Frampton could fill Wembley , McGuigan would still want it in Ireland so he could make big dough even if Frampton doesn't.
Mark my words, one day McGuigan and Frampton will end in tears just like McGuigan and Eastwood did.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

I've nothing against Frampton, but has been well and truly brainwashed by McGuigan. However, one day he is gonna wake up and smell the coffee and realise that the decisions being made aren't necessarily being made that are best for him, but that are best for McGuigan.
He moved from Matchroom because McGuigan wanted to manage and promote and Hearn was having none of it.
Even if Quigg vs Frampton could fill Wembley , McGuigan would still want it in Ireland so he could make big dough even if Frampton doesn't.
Mark my words, one day McGuigan and Frampton will end in tears just like McGuigan and Eastwood did.

I think you may be right. It's kind of sad though.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

I've nothing against Frampton, but has been well and truly brainwashed by McGuigan. However, one day he is gonna wake up and smell the coffee and realise that the decisions being made aren't necessarily being made that are best for him, but that are best for McGuigan.
He moved from Matchroom because McGuigan wanted to manage and promote and Hearn was having none of it.
Even if Quigg vs Frampton could fill Wembley , McGuigan would still want it in Ireland so he could make big dough even if Frampton doesn't.
Mark my words, one day McGuigan and Frampton will end in tears just like McGuigan and Eastwood did.

I think you may be right. It's kind of sad though.

Yea I can see it going that way too. But in fairness Frampton is the draw. Quiggs last fight was empty and that was with Joshua as support. I doubt Frampton Quigg sells out wembley unless there is a monster undercard but nearly any other venue would sell out and it would mostly be Irish there. The only advantage being at home is the crowd and considering whereever the fight is the crowd will be with Frampton I dont really see why he shouldnt travel to England.

It should be co promoted though. Hearn has the monopoly with Sky and it really isnt fair.

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Originally Posted by Master

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Hearn is obviously looking to make money for himself, but McGuigan wants every slice of the cake going. Promoter,Manager,press officer, second , head cook and bottle washer. He's a greedy fucker and all I'm saying is he'll make deals that make more for him even if they're not the best for Frampton .

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Hearn is obviously looking to make money for himself, but McGuigan wants every slice of the cake going. Promoter,Manager,press officer, second , head cook and bottle washer. He's a greedy fucker and all I'm saying is he'll make deals that make more for him even if they're not the best for Frampton .

He has brought up Frampton and is like a son to him. If anything I think he is too emotionally involved with him. Barry has Frampton's interest at heart. Hearn has his wallet.

This fight HAS to be made! Both Hearn and McGuigan have to take a step back and listen to the fans but also the boxers who want a piece of each other. Frampton is my boy but Quigg deserves respect and not excuses. Let's get it on (hopefully in Belfast!).

This fight will happen don't jump the gun, have a little patience good things come to them
that wait.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Hearn is obviously looking to make money for himself, but McGuigan wants every slice of the cake going. Promoter,Manager,press officer, second , head cook and bottle washer. He's a greedy fucker and all I'm saying is he'll make deals that make more for him even if they're not the best for Frampton .

He has brought up Frampton and is like a son to him. If anything I think he is too emotionally involved with him. Barry has Frampton's interest at heart. Hearn has his wallet.

Of course Hearn has his wallet at heart, but he doesn't make any bones about that . I'm not sticking up for Hearns here, he's a promoter and that's that.
But McGuigan is Frampton's Manager - and takes a cut
His Son trains Frampton - and takes a cut
His other son is his promoter ( fuck knows his name or what he even looks like)- and takes a cut
They have the gym at McGuigan's house- and no doubt charge Frampton for that
They had Frampton live at his house for the whole camp of the fight- no doubt Mrs. McGuigan puts a bill in for that.
He's totally fuckin outnumbered in any career decision and one day he's gonna realise that he's taking all the punches , and he has no control of his career. And to cap it all he's probably taking home less money than they are!!!
When that happens , it'll all go "Pete Tong" and McGuigan will be bellyaching and blubbering about it all day in the press.

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Hearn is obviously looking to make money for himself, but McGuigan wants every slice of the cake going. Promoter,Manager,press officer, second , head cook and bottle washer. He's a greedy fucker and all I'm saying is he'll make deals that make more for him even if they're not the best for Frampton .

He has brought up Frampton and is like a son to him. If anything I think he is too emotionally involved with him. Barry has Frampton's interest at heart. Hearn has his wallet.

Of course Hearn has his wallet at heart, but he doesn't make any bones about that . I'm not sticking up for Hearns here, he's a promoter and that's that.
But McGuigan is Frampton's Manager - and takes a cut
His Son trains Frampton - and takes a cut
His other son is his promoter ( fuck knows his name or what he even looks like)- and takes a cut
They have the gym at McGuigan's house- and no doubt charge Frampton for that
They had Frampton live at his house for the whole camp of the fight- no doubt Mrs. McGuigan puts a bill in for that.
He's totally fuckin outnumbered in any career decision and one day he's gonna realise that he's taking all the punches , and he has no control of his career. And to cap it all he's probably taking home less money than they are!!!
When that happens , it'll all go "Pete Tong" and McGuigan will be bellyaching and blubbering about it all day in the press.

Barry is not Don King.

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

You boys are crazy. Barry is no Don't King, he is looking after Frampton. Hearn is a cunt and only looks after himself. Frampton is just warning everyone that Yearn may be a stumbling block to the fight happening because he wants a cut of the profits for this fight. I hate promters who are pimps of boxing.

Hearn is obviously looking to make money for himself, but McGuigan wants every slice of the cake going. Promoter,Manager,press officer, second , head cook and bottle washer. He's a greedy fucker and all I'm saying is he'll make deals that make more for him even if they're not the best for Frampton .

He has brought up Frampton and is like a son to him. If anything I think he is too emotionally involved with him. Barry has Frampton's interest at heart. Hearn has his wallet.

Of course Hearn has his wallet at heart, but he doesn't make any bones about that . I'm not sticking up for Hearns here, he's a promoter and that's that.
But McGuigan is Frampton's Manager - and takes a cut
His Son trains Frampton - and takes a cut
His other son is his promoter ( fuck knows his name or what he even looks like)- and takes a cut
They have the gym at McGuigan's house- and no doubt charge Frampton for that
They had Frampton live at his house for the whole camp of the fight- no doubt Mrs. McGuigan puts a bill in for that.
He's totally fuckin outnumbered in any career decision and one day he's gonna realise that he's taking all the punches , and he has no control of his career. And to cap it all he's probably taking home less money than they are!!!
When that happens , it'll all go "Pete Tong" and McGuigan will be bellyaching and blubbering about it all day in the press.

Barry is not Don King.

No, but he thinks he is. Quigg said he'll fight wherever the most money is. Frampton and McGuigan say Belfast or nothing, and that's for every fight! Frampton is a great fighter and against Martinez he was superb, but What World champion defends in the hometown of the challenger after he's previous lost there to him? Martinez basically took the big payday and sold his belt! So is Quigg supposed to do that? And Santa Cruz? And Rigondeaux?

I don't see anything wrong with what Frampton is saying here. Hearn has signed Frampton's mandatory so he's got more negotiating leverage for this fight so he is involving himself as much as he can. Hearn wants it at the MEN for obvious reasons. McGuigan wants it in Belfast for obvious reasons. Frampton is the draw, Hearn has the Sky monopoly although I don't see this being a PPV event. If it is it'll be Northern Irish Frampton fans buying it so Frampton is the promotional A side here but Hearn is the A side promoter. So an impasse.

I don't think McGuigan is promoting Frampton for philanthropic reasons but he's definitely got his best interests at heart in this.