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    Default Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    Well, GGG is #1 by a whole heap. lolol... Manny is #2. Floyd #3. Over 8,500 people voted. What do you think about the casual fans on this one??
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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    I like the fact that GGG is getting so much heat.

    Whether you like GGG or you think he's overrated, boxing always needs guys who can captivate and bring in an audience and it's looking more and more like GGG will be a guy to do that.

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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    It's not casual fans reading The Ring website.

    What have you done for me lately? You can make a case for Golovkin being top dog. Floyd had to rematch a man that has never been considered close to P4P, with several previous losses to men that have never been rated P4P. Floyd looked far from impressive.

    GGG can't find an opponent that can even give him a run for his money. His performance is far more impressive against "allegedly" inferior opposition.

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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    Rigondeaux has to be in the top three. And I'm not a Rigondeaux fan. Roman Gonzalez should be top five. From what I can see of the thumbnail it's all Golovkin, Floyd and Manny. It's more a popularity contest than a pound for pound list.

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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    Well I don't think there's any real logical way anyone can rank GGG above a guy like Floyd or Andre Ward P4P right now. GGG has fought a bunch of good guys and totally destroyed them, but he hasn't yet gotten that BIG fight that would put him over the top, like a fight with Ward, Froch, or Martinez pre-Cotto would have.

    In Floyd, his resume speaks for itself and in Andre, you have a guy who's completely cleaned out his division by winning the Super 8, and the division he cleaned out was a very tough division.

    My biggest gripe is with Pac being top 3. A guy who's 2-2 in his last 4 shouldn't be top 3 IMO.

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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Well I don't think there's any real logical way anyone can rank GGG above a guy like Floyd or Andre Ward P4P right now. GGG has fought a bunch of good guys and totally destroyed them, but he hasn't yet gotten that BIG fight that would put him over the top, like a fight with Ward, Froch, or Martinez pre-Cotto would have.

    In Floyd, his resume speaks for itself and in Andre, you have a guy who's completely cleaned out his division by winning the Super 8, and the division he cleaned out was a very tough division.

    My biggest gripe is with Pac being top 3. A guy who's 2-2 in his last 4 shouldn't be top 3 IMO.
    Can see your point with Pac, but feel that he is 3-1 (even though judges ripped him off) and was actually starting to put on serious pressure n damage prior to JMM catching him with that monster shot. He beat the previously #3 P4P undefeated Bradley in his previous fight, so it makes sense. If you are being honest, a Manny has consistently taken on much superior opposition than Floyd.

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    Default Re: Un-scientific Ring poll- as of today. Top p4p fighter in the world!

    I can not read that, too small print, must be my age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Well I don't think there's any real logical way anyone can rank GGG above a guy like Floyd or Andre Ward P4P right now. GGG has fought a bunch of good guys and totally destroyed them, but he hasn't yet gotten that BIG fight that would put him over the top, like a fight with Ward, Froch, or Martinez pre-Cotto would have.

    In Floyd, his resume speaks for itself and in Andre, you have a guy who's completely cleaned out his division by winning the Super 8, and the division he cleaned out was a very tough division.

    My biggest gripe is with Pac being top 3. A guy who's 2-2 in his last 4 shouldn't be top 3 IMO.
    Can see your point with Pac, but feel that he is 3-1 (even though judges ripped him off) and was actually starting to put on serious pressure n damage prior to JMM catching him with that monster shot. He beat the previously #3 P4P undefeated Bradley in his previous fight, so it makes sense. If you are being honest, a Manny has consistently taken on much superior opposition than Floyd.
    Superior how? Floyd took on a better version of Oscar, a better version of Hatton and a better version of Mosley. These things are undeniable. It can be argued who fought the better version of Cotto because of Cotto being at a comfortable weight against Floyd. If Floyd would have fought JMM 4 times we would kill him but Manny gets credit, it's a bias you don't care to see. Alvarez would beat everyone Manny has every fought because of size or the fact they were used up. Algieri, GTFOOH. Bradley, okay, he is a good fighter with a great heart. Manny had a nice run, legendary even but it was a run. His opponents have been weaker than Floyd's for years. And his opponents were weaker earlier in their careers for years. Many certainly had the superior middle stretch and by a wide margin. But you speak of consistency, it's plum f'n illogical. Consistency doesn't even equate. Floyd was #2 P4P in 1998(perhaps it was 99), 16 years later he is number 1 and it's all based on consistency. You can't give Manny props over Floyd in every f'n thing. You can in many but certainly not consistency.

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