Thread: Why did manny stay with bob arum?

Lets not go to off topic..

Why did he stay?

What is wrong in starting up something like "Pacman Promotions" and making 3-4 times what you earnt with top rank?!

Why why why.

Oscar left.

Floyd left.

Cotto left.

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.

Bob wouldn't have to say it himself. He could have any number of "sources" reveal it.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

My guess, (and it's only guess because I have absolutely no proof to back this up) is that Bob knows about the PED use and will out Manny if he ever leaves.

I just think other people are making too much money off him whilst he is with top rank and it suits them for him to stay there..

Manny isnt earning crumbs at top rank and he will retire with millions in the bank but surely for the last stage of your career why not take a risk and get as much money as you can like oscar and floyd have...

He is now with top rank until the end if 2016..do even the pac fans agree with this..?

If he leaves Top Rank and Arum exposes his steroid use then his reputation and public image is further tarnished and he can't make nearly as much money.

He becomes a disgraced fighter. He becomes Lance Armstrong.

Wouldnt that incriminate bob arum as well?

Could be for drug reasons but I just think its the fact that bob arum has so many yes man to plant seeds in mannys head that he will always think that top rank is the best choice.

Bob wouldn't have to say it himself. He could have any number of "sources" reveal it.

Fair play.

Whatever the reason its a shame because manny has lost out big time on the £££££

Yup.

Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.

HAhahaha!

Manny has cheated on his wife more than once.

I think Arum has some dirt on him, probably in regards to PEDs. There's no other explanation why you'd stay with a guy you hired a third party to investigate because he was stealing money from you.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Isn't it obvious? Pacquiao grew up street poor and Arum helped promote him into the richist and most popular sports figure in philippine history. One of Pacquiao's values is loyalty (faithful), but you can also put some stock in what he feels is his integrity. The other thing is, the man is not greedy. In Arum's case, Pacquiao is an easy sell. I know many people will look at his decision to stay with Arum as stupid, but you have to look at his criteria. His values are obviously more important to him than making more money.

Come on fat jonny!

This is not about comparing floyd with manny about values this is just about manny.

Floyd is a c&nt if he beat his wife and I would be the first to spit in his face.

Theres loads of tough guys with bad upbringings and single parent familes or poor situations.

It cant be his values because he never had any when he cheated on his wife or hating homosexuals or scarring his godly body with tattoos etc

How can anyone be loyal to a corrupt lawyer like bob arum.

Jeez..get out the violin!

He would make more money without bob arum and I want to know why or at least some decent theories why he stayed..

I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.

Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.

Could be that.

He is worshipped there.

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

I dont think Pacquiao really cares too much. I mean the country elected the guy a congressman. The Philippines stop when he fights. Even when he is out of boxing he will be rich there and find a way to make money. Be it like George Forman with somethin as simple as a grill or something silly as a music career or get deeper into politics.

Could be that.

He is worshipped there.

Why not leave Bob, make more money AND be a big celebrity and be George Foreman and be a politician.

He hired someone to investigate his finances because he was being ripped off (like other Top Rank fighters have accused Bob of), so he must care.