Thread: Mayweather was full of sh*t tonight bashing Pacman on Showtime...

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

Pac should have said yes to the randoms in 2010. It has made him look bad since then. I don't care what he gives into now. He should have said yes then.

Originally Posted by powerpuncher

it was always both sides. anybody who only blames one side is an idiot. if either fighter really wanted the fight, they could have pushed a lot harder for it. both just kind of let it go.

i do agree with floyd though that obviously pac and arum really want this fight now to make mega bucks before pac loses even more popularity.

I am talking here about the possible (but highly improbable) Mayweather-Pacquiao megafight in the PRESENT, not the PAST negotiation that fell apart. If you stated there that "obviously pac and arum really want this fight now", what is there to blame on their side now? Isn't it now solely on Floyd to accept? If he is indeed serious in that interview, and he does not come up with any outrageous demands then I don't see any reason why the fight should not happen. Floyd has the upper hand in the negotiation and I believe it will be more up to him to be able to make it happen.

Floyd was juicing but managed to use deflection. Everyone knows Floyd has been fighting dirty his whole career. Ruthless Rocco has even seen the injection marks around Floyd's scrotum.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

If Pacquiao had really wanted to fight Floyd and Floyd was the one ducking and dodging all these years then he could have followed David Haye's lead and stalked Floyd the way Haye did Klitchko. Show up at every press conference, fight, media event. Talk about it in every interview. Taunt your opponent at every opportunity. Make the fight happen if you really want it to. That's what I saw Floyd doing in that video.

It isn't in Pacquiao's personality. And Manny resides in the Philippines so it isn't like he can stalk Floyd by showing up to every press conference fight

Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

If Pacquiao had really wanted to fight Floyd and Floyd was the one ducking and dodging all these years then he could have followed David Haye's lead and stalked Floyd the way Haye did Klitchko. Show up at every press conference, fight, media event. Talk about it in every interview. Taunt your opponent at every opportunity. Make the fight happen if you really want it to. That's what I saw Floyd doing in that video.

It isn't in Pacquiao's personality. And Manny resides in the Philippines so it isn't like he can stalk Floyd by showing up to every press conference fight

I have tons of evidence to show that Floyd is ducking the PACMAN.

The fight won't happen because Floyd is a "SMART" man. He said it himself.

He was pressured to make a statement and make a schedule of the fight but, once again, he will make ridiculous demands to make this fight impossible to happen. FACT.

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

Im read it; Stop the name calling its like kindergarten, address the points at hand and cease the emotional bullshit.

GB could now come back with counter points including 4: it is meant to be 4 not 3 repeated, but that would be like correcting punctuation.

4 could also be :If you dont expect us to be irrational,why bother addressing us in posts?

3 Is bang on the money.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Pac nut huggers can say what they want but they can't change or twist facts: everything was agreed on - money, venue, rights, ect. Only one thing remained: the drug testing issue. Floyd wanted a 14 day cut off date, Manny wanted a 24 day cut off date. That was the sole sticking point and the reason the fight never happened.

If Manny had agreed to a 14 day cut off date for the drug testing, this fight would have happened 4 years ago. He didn't. He felt that having blood drawn as close as two weeks before a fight would be way too traumatic for a boxing warrior to recover from... even though Floyd would have had to have taken the same test. So the fight never happened.

Pac fans will always say "OH WHO IS FLOYD TO DEMAND SPECIAL STIPULATIONS, HE JUST DID THAT SO THE FIGHT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN", ironically ignoring the fact that Pac also demands his own special stipulations (Mayweather would have had to turn over several million dollars for every pound he came in over the limit, and every other Pac fight seems to be at a special catch weight).

Well, those "special stipulations" that Floyd demanded 4 years ago have pretty much become standard practice since, and Manny has since participated in it in several of his fights afterwards, so I guess it wasn't too outrageous for Floyd to demand it.

Also, when you have a guy who's camp "allegedly" (reported by several very credible sources) enquired as to A) what the penalty for testing positive would be and B) if a positive test could be kept secret... it might be best to make that guy take a stringent drug test.

The facts favour Floyd, people who claim Floyd ducked him never have any logic for their opinion, they just think that if they say it often enough it'll be true. But it's not, it's stupidity.

You validate Floyd's cowardice.

Everyone of Saddo should not fall out over these 2 dickheads. Forget them both. If they can not make the biggest fight in history that is their problem and issue.

Amen signed on behalf of @walrus

Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

1- I say Pactards not nuthuggers. I don't care about your sex life but I am amused by how stupid many of you guys are.

2- it's you're not your.

3- as in control of his own destiny as Floyd may be, he can't make Manny agree to fight him if Manny and Arum don't want the fight to happen.

3- if you don't expect us to be rational, why bother addressing us in posts.

2. Actually it is your and not you're

"Both you and Rocco have made your mind up" is not served well with a contraction of you are.

"Both you and Rocco have made you are mind up"

I should perhaps have used the plural for mind, but unlike my day job, I am not paid to write here and it's seems that even allocating one mind between you, is me on my part, being somewhat over generous.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Just because you say something it does not lend it some kind of gravitas or credence. Both you and Rocco have made your mind up and are so unwilling to countenance any other opinion that you have both for some time now completely dismissed anyone who does not agree, with this dumb "you are all Pac Nuthuggers" rubbish. Most fight fans are not so tribal when it comes to this fight. It would have been a great fight but it hasn't happened and now Floyd, who is supposedly in total control of his own destiny, is gloating about it not happening as though it's something to admire him for

There are a lot of people who do not subscribe to your point of view and calling them all 10 year olds till your blue in the face is not going to make them all jump in your boat. You have never once been rational when discussing Floyd, so I don't expect you to start now.

Nobody has proven me wrong with any reasoning or logic. They never do.

Originally Posted by KananKrus

You validate Floyd's cowardice.

Shut up, dummy.

@Greenbeanz

"...till your blue in the face..."

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by KananKrus

You validate Floyd's cowardice.

Shut up, dummy.

Such display of an uneducated response. You are beginning to sound like your Boss, chicken shit Floyd, without much independent thought, you crank your boss's tapes and play her uneducated rants.

Such lack of class from chicken shit like you.

Gone are the days when people with less education more than level up to compensate society at large with through grace, innate wisdom, and exemplary civility.

We have the Floyds and the bean flickers of society to thank for with this unfortunate turn.