Thread: If Cotto vs margarito never happened?

Its pretty obvious margarito had loaded gloves for this fight even though we will never know...

What are your thoughts on this first fight and give me an idea on where you think cotto would have been if this fight never took place..(no catchweight talk either!)

Catch weight talk is essential, that all changes if he doesn't lose that fight.

Cotto would have kept pushing himself maybe would have fought Paul Williams, maybe Floyd Mayweather Jr....I think he would have been very dangerous for a longer period of time.

The Margarito fight took a lot of starch out of him what with the loaded gloves and all.

Is it obvious?

The fight with Margarito did take 2/3 good fights out of Cotto. It stopped his undefeated streak and momentum. He may have got a few more wins but he would have still lost to Manny who was flying at the time and he would have still lost to Floyd.

Maybe he would have beaten Trout.

I STILL think Cotto had the right style to beat Floyd and that was shown in how well he fought Floyd with a brand new trainer...had his uncle still been in his corner who knows how well he could have done, but that Margarito fight broke their bond.

The Pacquiao fight was just a cluster fuck, Miguel didn't even have a real trainer in his corner

I think Cotto and Hatton had better chance against Floyd at light welter limit.

There would be one less loss on his record. That is all.

He probably wouldnt be as traumatized though. Marga got him cherrypicking handicapped opponents. Lol

Originally Posted by imp

Its pretty obvious margarito had loaded gloves for this fight even though we will never know...

What are your thoughts on this first fight and give me an idea on where you think cotto would have been if this fight never took place..(no catchweight talk either!)

Tony Margarito LEGITIMATELY beat Miguel Cotto into submission. Cotto never queried his terrible beating until that blatant liar Nazim Pinnochio Richardson shouted out that "BLOCKS" fell out of Margarito's wraps. What happened to those supposed blocks ?? All the CSAC came up with was a used gauze pad that the Lab tested & proved to be harmless
The rematch , that Cotto only signed when he knew Margarito's eye was permanently damaged, was headed for a repeat of Fight 1 till the NY doc stepped in and stopped the fight. He stopped it to save Cotto the embarrassment of quitting AGAIN!!!! not to save Margarito's eye. Did Margarito have loaded gloves then? Did he have loaded gloves against Paquaio when he put Paquaio in bed with damaged ribs
The only cheaters that night were Nazim Richardson & a juiced to the gills Mosely

Originally Posted by Master

I think Cotto and Hatton had better chance against Floyd at light welter limit.

I kind of think Mayweather let Cotto into that fight. There are even times wen he seems to be the one that was steering it to the corners. I honestly believe that Floyd was paranoid of going to jail regardless of how club med it was going to be. In his arrogant mind he probably never thought it possible with who he had on retainer. I think he fought that fight partly for the prison population.

With Hatton, Ricky never had a chance to fight. He was even getting warned for Floyds fouls. Once Cortez figured out why he got the job in the second Castillo fight it was in his economical self interest to continue with those duties right up to his blown fight with Ortiz. Had he not retired, he most likely would have worked both Maidana fights. Its funny cause you would never see him in frame when he was reffing undercards.

In answer to the question I wonder how Billy Collins would have turned out if Resto never happened? Its a testimony to Miguels heart and soul that he has been able to do what he has done since even in his losses. His musical chair routine with his trainers hasn't helped much but one certainly has to afford a certain amount of physical loss to him. It had to have shortened his career overall and effected some of his performances.

Cotto and Margarito would never avoid each other.

Originally Posted by Lineal

Cotto and Margarito would never avoid each other.

Indeed. But you can't expect Margie fans to be honest about this because it's embarrassing. Embarrassing doesn't seem strong enough actually, disgraceful is more appropriate. But even that seems too weak for such a low down slimy piece of shit like Margie.

If Cotto-Margarito never happened?

MargaCheato's 15 minutes of fame would've been a hell of a lot shorter. His cheating ways were exposed against Mosley, who to add insult to injury had just knocked the living shit out of him.

As far as Cotto, the first fight did take a lot out of him. Getting beaten with plaster casts will have that effect on a man. Kudos to him for coming back and resurrecting his career even stronger. His adaptability has always been a strong point.

I do think his musical chairs with trainers would've caused him to lose against Pac regardless. As I remember, he had some clueless trainer in his corner for that fight.

Had Cotto-Margarito never happened, Cotto's peak would've been a bit longer.

Yeah the damage that Cotto suffered physically and mentally in that fight took a lot out of him.

When people slagged Floyd for trying to bring up special stipulations, I always think of Cotto, who took two of his worst beatings at the hands of two alleged cheats.

All you guys dissing Antonio Margarito & calling him a cheat seem to have forgotten the laws of the land. A man is innocent until he is proved guilty I thought. Antonio Margarito was banned from boxing due to a blatant lie from Nazim Richardson who claimed "BLOCKS" fell out of Margarito's wraps. Where are those blocks? No one else saw any blocks. The CSAC banned him without proof he'd done anything wrong. When the supposed loaded pads were tested they were deemed HARMLESS by the laboratory that conducted the tests.
If anyone cheated on that night it was Nazim Richardson for blatantly lying. Plus if you look at Mosely's performances against Mora & the way he gassed after 3 rounds against Floyd What made him the Unstoppable killer with boundless energy against Margarito?? In my opinion he was juiced to the gills. Now we all know he was caught using EPO steroids against Oscar If anyone should be accused its Mosesly not Margarito.
Cotto is a cry baby he blamed everyone else for his defeats. He took the rematch against Margarito only when he knew Margarito's eye was permanently damaged. Even then he couldn't beat Margarito legitimately He had to rely on a crooked NY doc to stop the fight in case he took a knee in surrender AGAIN!!!!!