Thread: Looking for the roots of terrorism

Its all so confusing. Wahabi sects are certainly dodgy Wasabi sex is good too.

I should also say that one video is not the most representative way of explaining the thoughts of every moderate Muslim. Remember that the guy who saved all those Jews by hiding them in the fridge in Paris was a Muslim and the Policeman protecting the Charlie Hebdo "blasphemers" who was shot dead, was a muslim. I would be surprised to find that they were fans of stoning. I have expressed reservation and caution from day one about extremes in either direction and using arguments that could be interpreted as xenophobic. Nowhere did I call anyone a xenophobe for expressing uncomfortableness with such irrational ideologies. That is what should set us apart form extremists. The ability to vehemently disagree without acting like a different opinion is blasphemy.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

and the Policeman protecting the Charlie Hebdo "blasphemers" who was shot dead, was a muslim.

To be fair, that guy was just responding to a shooting: he didn't know who he was protecting or the motive of the shooters.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Its all so confusing. Wahabi sects are certainly dodgy Wasabi sex is good too.

Wasabi sex ? Horseradish on your bellend does not seem like a great recipe for the food of love

Canadian Muslim group funnelled $300K to Hamas-linked charity: Documents | Canad


This is what we're dealing with up here now too. Ughhh. Supporting terrorists morally AND financially.

1 thing that just chaps my ass about this whole thing is "-Phobia"...."xenophobia", "Islamaphobia" .......the suffix "-phobia" denotes FEAR OF. No no no no, I'm not "fearful" or "afraid" of Muslims, nor am I "fearful" or "afraid" of people with different customs or people from different countries, I'm an American and I am accepting to all people provided they show respect for what has been established here in America. The people who use the term "Islamaphobia" want to not only paint their opponents as bigots but they want to humiliate them and put them on the defensive by using that kind of language which I am certain effete liberals like Noam Chomsky are 100% supportive of.

I'm pragmatic in my assessment, no not 100% of terrorists in the history of the world are Muslim, but right now what we are dealing with is a hardline Muslim ideology which wishes to wipe the 1 Jewish state and her allies off the map and establish a Caliphate (which they've already achieved in part). This is not done in the name of Christianity, it is not done in the name of Judaism, it is not done in the name of Hinduism, Zen Buddhism, or Zoaranastrianism, it is done by Sunni Muslims who are Arabic in ethnicity and they are unhappy for several reasons....that said, nobody asked "Why do the Nazi's fight" we just addressed the enemy, and fought them right back.

People want to be PC about war ever since Vietnam "Let's understand the enemy"...no FUCK the enemy, kill them! The news is skewed and ridiculous, those talking heads seem more worried about the enemy than our brave men and women fighting over there, "The death totals for the enemy are so high" GOOD all the better for us to have low casualties then. War is not won with pats on the back and buying the enemy an ice cream sundae...war is won by taking land, finding and killing the enemy, and protecting those who support you, to see war as anything other than that is a failure of logic. War is Hell, but war is also simple....you kill more of their guys than they kill of ours, you take and control more land than they do, you punish those who aide and collaborate with the enemy and you put the boot down hard until they give up...that is how wars are won from the dawn of time to now!

The video I posted isn't meant to be representative of all muslims.

If a room full of hundreds of young "normal" people can believe in such a disgusting, barbaric, medieval form of justice, for things that are completely and utterly harmless, then it's hardly surprising that some take it a step further and start killing people. Brainwashed because of Islam.

Now seriously, it's the culture, the culture a person is brought up in. Culture has a very strong influence on people's lives, even more so than religion per se. Culture can make a seemigly perfect gentleman act like a total beast in certain situations. Influence of culture on a person's life is so pervasive that it can mold his character in a way that nothing else can. Remember, Japanese used to be suicide bombers, but now they are totally different people because they no longer live in their old culture that glorified violence...

Originally Posted by Fenster

The video I posted isn't meant to be representative of all muslims.

If a room full of hundreds of young "normal" people can believe in such a disgusting, barbaric, medieval form of justice, for things that are completely and utterly harmless, then it's hardly surprising that some take it a step further and start killing people. Brainwashed because of Islam.

This is true but it's down to the fact that the mosques and the imans in Norway and probably most of the mosques and imans in the countries those people originally came from are funded by Saudi or other Gulf money that funds this medieval fundamentalist strain of Islam.

And we don't do anything about it. Look at the orgy of arse kissing that we had after the Saudi king died on Friday. I was surprised to read that Abdullah was a force for moderation and peace. And we've just agreed to give a World Cup to Qatar and are kisssing their arses, ignoring that they're building their stadiums with slave labour and the Qatari royal family are funding various Islamic terrorist groups.

If we'd found a clean cheap source of energy a decade ago and had managed to turn over the world's transport fleet to the new fuel and also replaced domestic and industrial power sources that used to run on oil then we'd now be putting these fuckers under sanctions, arresting their royal families if they set foot outside their countries and funding moderate imans to replace all the fundamentalist nutters currently teaching in mosques. We'd also be not giving a fuck about interfering in the Middle East. No Iraq wars, no drone attacks, no military bases, no propping up dictatorships. And the Middle East would be happily fighting amongst themselves à la Syria and not giving a fuck about us. Unfortunately this is not the case.

Originally Posted by pacfan

Culture has a very strong influence on people's lives, even more so than religion per se.

This is dead right. It's a regional thing rather than a religion thing. Look at the way women are treated in India, the attitude to rape, domestic violence, honour killings, acid attacks and so on. Basically a big chunk of the world are backwards fucking savages towards women and anybody not from their group or tribe. Religion is just another thing they use to differentiate and justify their actions but not even the main one in most cases (not recently though in Muslim countries).

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Originally Posted by pacfan

Culture has a very strong influence on people's lives, even more so than religion per se.

This is dead right. It's a regional thing rather than a religion thing. Look at the way women are treated in India, the attitude to rape, domestic violence, honour killings, acid attacks and so on. Basically a big chunk of the world are backwards fucking savages towards women and anybody not from their group or tribe. Religion is just another thing they use to differentiate and justify their actions but not even the main one in most cases (not recently though in Muslim countries).

Islam is but a means to normalize such practices. India IS a "Muslim country", there are over 180 Million Muslims in India.

That's out of over a billion people though.

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

That's out of over a billion people though.

10.9% of all the Muslims in the world live in India placing it right behind Indonesia which is home to 12.7% of the entire population of Muslims

Most of Turkey practises Islam.

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

That's out of over a billion people though.

10.9% of all the Muslims in the world live in India placing it right behind Indonesia which is home to 12.7% of the entire population of Muslims

Yeah but you have to look at it in context, in reality only 12-14% of India is Muslim, wouldn't really classify that was a majority, that's roughly the same percentage of America that is black.