Thread: FCC look to impliment Net Nutrality

If you want to make an argument in your own words I'll reply to it. I'm not replying to a video. I only posted a video because written facts and evidence, even if they make it onto your little shelf, don't stay there for long and I was trying something new.

Here are some simple facts. Every major economy in the world regulates the internet as a utility to stop dodgy deals by the companies that provide theinternet (ISPs).

US ISPs managed to find a judge to overthrow current US internet regulation and the current legislation is the new regulation to replace the old stuff. The US ISPs want the ability to charge firms more money or slow their service down if they don't pay. This is not a good thing for consumers or a free market on the internet for new and existing businesses.

The proposed regulation will maintain a free market and prevent restraint of trade by US ISPs. You're against this because as per fucking always you've got it wrong again and swallowed the bullshit arguments that the US ISP lobbyists are making.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

If you want to make an argument in your own words I'll reply to it. I'm not replying to a video. I only posted a video because written facts and evidence, even if they make it onto your little shelf, don't stay there for long and I was trying something new.

Here are some simple facts. Every major economy in the world regulates the internet as a utility to stop dodgy deals by the companies that provide theinternet (ISPs).

US ISPs managed to find a judge to overthrow current US internet regulation and the current legislation is the new regulation to replace the old stuff. The US ISPs want the ability to charge firms more money or slow their service down if they don't pay. This is not a good thing for consumers or a free market on the internet for new and existing businesses.

The proposed regulation will maintain a free market and prevent restraint of trade by US ISPs. You're against this because as per fucking always you've got it wrong again and swallowed the bullshit arguments that the US ISP lobbyists are making.

Oh YOU won't reply to a video but you wish me to?

Here's a fact for you, though perhaps you missed it as it was in a video....the one YOU posted....and it states that FCC chairman Tom Wheeler was once head of lobbying groups NCTA & CTIA, which covers cable television and cellular telecommunications. Does that not strike you as odd.....oh of course it wouldn't.

Sure the FCC Chair Mr. Wheeler refuses to meet before Congress

Sure what's in the bill hasn't been opened to the public before being voted on

Sure the Government is using Title II (developed for landline phones) to legislate the internet

Sure countries like China have used the internet for business purposes while limiting it's use as a place for free speech.



But I'm ABSOLUTELY certain that these politicians have your and MY best interests at heart.....#itsforourowngoodcomrade

And that is why most of the videos I posted, the ones you won't take the time to watch because you're a cunt, are videos of...

1. Barack Obama touting the transparency his administration will bring to Washington DC in 2008 (has he done that Kirkland?)

2. Nancy Pelosi's asinine "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in the bill" quote....(what if there's a clause for killing baby puppies in there?....guess we'll have to pass the bill to find out!)

3. President Obama's repeated and blatant lies on Obamacare "If you like your plan you get to keep your plan period" HIS EXACT WORDS which were touted as the LIE OF THE YEAR....please feel free to re-read that if it didn't click the fucking first time you jackass

4. A Daily Show moment of truth where Liberal funny man and his audience of trained seals Jon Stewart takes Obama to task on his lies after Wittle Jon's feewings got hurt because his idol lied to him

5. An explanation of net neutrality from an FCC chairperson OPPOSED to Net Neutrality....you know, in case you were open to debate.....oh you're not.....oh ok.....that's fine, I didn't think you would be

6. An explanation of Title II and what it means for the future of the internet.


But hey, on the bright side soon the US will have as free of an internet as they have in China and Russia.....makes you smiles doesn't it comrade cuntface?


Have a good day you booger eating simpleton

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

If you want to make an argument in your own words I'll reply to it. I'm not replying to a video. I only posted a video because written facts and evidence, even if they make it onto your little shelf, don't stay there for long and I was trying something new.

Here are some simple facts. Every major economy in the world regulates the internet as a utility to stop dodgy deals by the companies that provide theinternet (ISPs).

US ISPs managed to find a judge to overthrow current US internet regulation and the current legislation is the new regulation to replace the old stuff. The US ISPs want the ability to charge firms more money or slow their service down if they don't pay. This is not a good thing for consumers or a free market on the internet for new and existing businesses.

The proposed regulation will maintain a free market and prevent restraint of trade by US ISPs. You're against this because as per fucking always you've got it wrong again and swallowed the bullshit arguments that the US ISP lobbyists are making.

Oh YOU won't reply to a video but you wish me to?

Here's a fact for you, though perhaps you missed it as it was in a video....the one YOU posted....and it states that FCC chairman Tom Wheeler was once head of lobbying groups NCTA & CTIA, which covers cable television and cellular telecommunications. Does that not strike you as odd.....oh of course it wouldn't.

Sure the FCC Chair Mr. Wheeler refuses to meet before Congress

Sure what's in the bill hasn't been opened to the public before being voted on

Sure the Government is using Title II (developed for landline phones) to legislate the internet

Sure countries like China have used the internet for business purposes while limiting it's use as a place for free speech.



But I'm ABSOLUTELY certain that these politicians have your and MY best interests at heart.....#itsforourowngoodcomrade

And that is why most of the videos I posted, the ones you won't take the time to watch because you're a cunt, are videos of...

1. Barack Obama touting the transparency his administration will bring to Washington DC in 2008 (has he done that Kirkland?)

2. Nancy Pelosi's asinine "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in the bill" quote....(what if there's a clause for killing baby puppies in there?....guess we'll have to pass the bill to find out!)

3. President Obama's repeated and blatant lies on Obamacare "If you like your plan you get to keep your plan period" HIS EXACT WORDS which were touted as the LIE OF THE YEAR....please feel free to re-read that if it didn't click the fucking first time you jackass

4. A Daily Show moment of truth where Liberal funny man and his audience of trained seals Jon Stewart takes Obama to task on his lies after Wittle Jon's feewings got hurt because his idol lied to him

5. An explanation of net neutrality from an FCC chairperson OPPOSED to Net Neutrality....you know, in case you were open to debate.....oh you're not.....oh ok.....that's fine, I didn't think you would be

6. An explanation of Title II and what it means for the future of the internet.


But hey, on the bright side soon the US will have as free of an internet as they have in China and Russia.....makes you smiles doesn't it comrade cuntface?


Have a good day you booger eating simpleton

I only posted a video to try a new way of getting information onto your little shelf. I should have expected a blizzard of videos in return along with no actual argument. I won't do it again.

No, it doesn't strike me as odd that a telecom lobbyist is running the body that regulates and oversees telecom companies. That's the same with financial, tech, agriculture, oil and gas and just about everything else the government regulates. It's been the same under every administration since Reagan. I just posted an article about it recently.

Despite the fact that he's a telecom lobbyist it's been impossible for him to scrap net neutrality like he spent his lobbying career campaigning for. And that's because it's a terrible option that only benefits telecoms but is very bad for internet and tech companies and of course consumers. So it's not going to happen.

It's not surprising to me that Obama has said one thing and done another, or Hillary or any other politician. That's because they're politicians Lyle. How long have you been paying attention to what politicians say? Since 2009 it looks like.

If you want to make an actual argument I'll reply to it. But no more videos. And Lyle, no more animal pictures. I've seen as much of your porn stash as I want to now thanks very much.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Also, too. The best argument the telecom/GOP can come up with is if the US internet is going to be regulated like a utility by Obama, as it is in every other major economy in the world, then America's internet speed will somehow become as slow as Europe's.

Look.

Download Speed by Country | Net Index from Ookla

So their best argument is a bullshit argument.

Yup, but bullshit is on their menu.
before 2010, it was a do-nothing Democratic Congress, but now that Republicans run it-Well the most they can do is hold hearings: the very thing republicans stated when they lost Congress in 2006, that America was going to watch Democrats do nothing but hold hearings.
Well that time has passed and all we see from Congress is hearing or drafts, but nothing tangible.

Even more interesting is that this is something akin to the Telecommunications Act of 1996. All I hear is that A Democrat was president when it was signed. But not who presented the Telecommunications Act of 1996- I think it was uh....aww shit wait.. Larry pressly aka Republican.


yet this business sounding discussion has once again turned political aka partisan and its all those damn democrats at fault. And that damn Obama. Skip the fact this ball was rolling before he came into the office. But I guess he is going to aid in taking America's freedom of the net like Youtube created by 3 average guys...what a great thing...oh wait...Google bought them
or what a guy Mr.Zuckerberg with the American dream creating facebook, wait, who owns it now?
Damn and what about the carriers? MCI Sprint? these aren't mom & pop shops, the mutha suckas who are running the net, give us a freedom to send, but damn, they share all our personal shit.

Ever heard of Beenverified.com? type that shit up and put in Floyd mayweather- it will list his next relatives. Shit did it to me. So there IMO is a huge compromise in this freedom of the net. yeah we use it, but it is being used against us. And we don't control it like we think we do.

I know I see it a bit different than you, but I respect how you break it down. In the end, my government wants to pit people against each other -against the prez- meanwhile they are stroking the dicks of those people who will benefit from this so-called net neutrality.

yet a Republican controlled congress claim all they can do is whine, cry, hold hearing and blame shit.
Well damn next time get a real candidate instead of Romey and they wont have to blame Obama or Clinton II

Interesting I always learn something new reading what all you guys have to say on stuff.

On a side note, couldnt the government bodies one day blame terrorism for the reason they are shutting down all public internet communications?

Is that a power they have already or one they are after,in the name of national security or something?

I imagine they would want that finger on the switch behind all the business that supplies it to us.

In the mean time I see they use the term conspiracy to their advantage regarding control of the public mind set regarding many things. So much so that the term has now globally taken on a whole new meaning from the original; So there are controls and there is control.

Originally Posted by Andre

Interesting I always learn something new reading what all you guys have to say on stuff.

On a side note, couldnt the government bodies one day blame terrorism for the reason they are shutting down all public internet communications?

Very good point. I think they have that in the makings- but it will be for a candidate trying to win office if/when it does happen.

Is that a power they have already or one they are after,in the name of national security or something?

I just watched some wanna be muslim dude who is in Deerborne, Michagan in America & he claims that he only had 100 thousand hits on his website, then when republicans started blaming Obama for not saying Muslims aint shit enough, well now he has 400 thousand hits..and thanks to the politicians, he has more followers ready to become homegrown terrorists; now aint that some shit?

I imagine they would want that finger on the switch behind all the business that supplies it to us.


In the mean time I see they use the term conspiracy to their advantage regarding control of the public mind set regarding many things. So much so that the term has now globally taken on a whole new meaning from the original; So there are controls and there is control.

Yes I agree they use the term conspiracy to their advantage.

One thing about this freedom word, though: when it comes to the net- is- somebody is paying somebody something somewhere.

That beenverified.com I mentioned. Type your name up.
It will accumulate shit about you from tickets, arrests, & get this: personal links to shit like facebook. And while it tallies all your info up-where you live, your next of kin it will say: No one will know you are getting informaton on Andre. And I'm thinking damn, so I can get information on Andre, but he cant be informed I AM DOING THIS? My point is: this shit aint in cyberspace.
Thats the process.
It is stored on a database right?
Databases are stored on physical objects/boxes called servers, correct?
Servers owned by major corporations that makes Unix, Linux.
Then processed by midrange or mainframes owned by IBM, routed by Cisco.
Space maintenence called DASD. These are billion dollar corporations who send, recieve & store all of our shit, from AOl.com, to Facebook to Googlemail. It is stored. Well who is storing it?
A jihadist, crazed lover lost his woman, thanks to the net- can find you your next of kin and fuck up the program all day long.

When it is all said & done, they throw us IMO a smokescreen doggy bone with no meet -called Net neutrality. So we are focused on the speed of sending and recieiving, & if it will cost $$-- but not who is responsible for the storage, maintenence of this shit ..for starters.

Thank goodness for net neutrality- we can continue to downlown our porn at speeds that big companies wanted to charge us for. Thank goodness we can continue to blog on saddo at the rate of the speed of light, but not be concerned on who can gather this information and where.

Meanwhile in some warehouse that has clouding centers where data is located: someone has accumulated everytime you typed up chunkyass.com How long were you there.
Somewhere we have information gathered about our lives, our relatives and ready to be bundled up and sent to shit like beenverified.com...for a nominal fee.

See if Republicans or Democrats were worth a shit? That's the shit they should be talking about in the Senate & Congress. But the Sheeple are too worried about net neutrality with code words like: Your freedom is being treaded on or...Is it consitutional. Let the partisan war begin...I mean continue

Originally Posted by Andre

Interesting I always learn something new reading what all you guys have to say on stuff.

On a side note, couldnt the government bodies one day blame terrorism for the reason they are shutting down all public internet communications?

Is that a power they have already or one they are after,in the name of national security or something?

I imagine they would want that finger on the switch behind all the business that supplies it to us.

In the mean time I see they use the term conspiracy to their advantage regarding control of the public mind set regarding many things. So much so that the term has now globally taken on a whole new meaning from the original; So there are controls and there is control.

They don't want to shut the internet off because they already get to listen into everything you say and do over the net and your phone line.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Originally Posted by Andre

Interesting I always learn something new reading what all you guys have to say on stuff.

On a side note, couldnt the government bodies one day blame terrorism for the reason they are shutting down all public internet communications?

Is that a power they have already or one they are after,in the name of national security or something?

I imagine they would want that finger on the switch behind all the business that supplies it to us.

In the mean time I see they use the term conspiracy to their advantage regarding control of the public mind set regarding many things. So much so that the term has now globally taken on a whole new meaning from the original; So there are controls and there is control.

They don't want to shut the internet off because they already get to listen into everything you say and do over the net and your phone line.

And the telegraph line too .....phone line ..... ok Andy Rooney

"When I was a boy during the summers the ice man used to chip off slivers of ice for us to eat and then we'd play in the fire hydrants....it was 1890"

Old git




Also you DO realize that like most things the government does this will lead to loads of new taxes and regulations......oh of course you do because you like those things....oh well back to your shuffleboard and tapioca pudding