Thread: GGG takes on Monroe Jr

Originally Posted by Arvid_85

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by Arvid_85

For Golovkin its good, because he build his own career by being busy and putting another title defence in the history books. People are so focused on that he should chase this and that "A-level"boxer, instead of letting them come crawling when the pressure from fans are too severe on the glamourous primadonnas. History will always tell about inactivity, and ducking real threat hurt careers. GGG pummels on and defends his championship like the champion he is. Let him do that, because in this game you are not considered old at 30 anymore.

That's good because GGG isn't 30 anymore. He'll be 33 before his next fight. He'll get a record, good for him. But if he wants to be remembered as a great he has to beat great fighters, that's how it works.

He will bid his time and pile up those defences, that will enhance his greatness. And fight by fight he will come closer to those defining moments where he will be judged. Not getting those superfights immediatly will only benefit for him.

I think a superfight would benefit him greatly but I see where you are coming from. It's not like he's not calling p people out.

Golovkin has stated many times he wants to fight a SMW but says he wants to unify the Middles beforehand.

I just hope he gets the mega fights against the likes of Froch etc before he starts to age.

If he wants Froch which I'm sure he does then that fight needs to happen in the next 12 months but money wise what does Golovkin bring to the table for Carl?
Fuck all unless he can at least scalp Cotto convincingly.

There's a big chance that Froch and Golovkin might just be ships in the night unfortunately which is neither a fault, just bad timing.

That is one fight that true fight fans badly want to see 😉

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

At least it's better than Tureano Johnson.

No, actually. They are almost the same. In fact, Johnson's record is a little better... more ko's... fought better competition... and Johnson was robbed by the ref in that Curtis Stevens fight, a fight he had won every round and was stopped 2 minutes into the last round and he wasn't even off of his feet or suffered a knockdown.

Johnson matches up, on paper, better than Monroe Jr. lol...

Originally Posted by Arvid_85

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Originally Posted by Arvid_85

For Golovkin its good, because he build his own career by being busy and putting another title defence in the history books. People are so focused on that he should chase this and that "A-level"boxer, instead of letting them come crawling when the pressure from fans are too severe on the glamourous primadonnas. History will always tell about inactivity, and ducking real threat hurt careers. GGG pummels on and defends his championship like the champion he is. Let him do that, because in this game you are not considered old at 30 anymore.

That's good because GGG isn't 30 anymore. He'll be 33 before his next fight. He'll get a record, good for him. But if he wants to be remembered as a great he has to beat great fighters, that's how it works.

He will bid his time and pile up those defences, that will enhance his greatness. And fight by fight he will come closer to those defining moments where he will be judged. Not getting those superfights immediatly will only benefit for him.

That entire post is wrong. And this mentality is awful. Sport is about competition.

And another poster mentioned "ruling like Hagler, Monzon, and Hopkins" it's not the same, they fought the best. I like GGG but I absolutely hate what is happening. People are turning a blind eye to the fact his handlers aren't even really trying to make big fights. They are using his busy schedule as a cover. We want to fight in May, why? If there is no meaningful fight in May, why? By the time he has his fight people will be locked up again. Why not stay available and push for a meaningful fight? It's a matter of what is better 3 5 million dollar fights or 5 3 million dollar fights. It's the same to his promoter. It's great for meaningless records like title defenses(great, you beat 20 inferior opponents so do most people on the way up) but what is lost is the 3 *GOOD* fights. Boxing fans seem to think these days that KOs mean excitement, that's f'n sad. Excitement should come from top quality competition. 4 years this man has been champ "cleaning out" this division. It is not clean, he has more trinkets, he gets paid more, but where are the significant fights? Down the road, I remember everyone saying that 2 years ago, and last year, now we're 2 fights into this year. Pay attention to what's happening people.

To be fair to GGG all the other top contenders seem to be tied up or not answering his call Cotto acting like a diva, Quillin/ Lee set to fight, Martinez still not sure if he will continue, already beaten Murray and Geale, Taylor in custody, Soliman might have been a possibility, Sturm moving to 168, N'jikam/ Lemieux are heading towards each other, Jacobs/ Truax going to fight, Saunders waiting on Quillin/ Lee winner I actually think Johnson would have been a better than Munroe, but Munroe has some momentum after winning the Boxcino tournament and the Vera win it's a fight that will continue to build Golovkins status

Originally Posted by La Cucaracha

To be fair to GGG all the other top contenders seem to be tied up or not answering his call Cotto acting like a diva, Quillin/ Lee set to fight, Martinez still not sure if he will continue, already beaten Murray and Geale, Taylor in custody, Soliman might have been a possibility, Sturm moving to 168, N'jikam/ Lemieux are heading towards each other, Jacobs/ Truax going to fight, Saunders waiting on Quillin/ Lee winner I actually think Johnson would have been a better than Munroe, but Munroe has some momentum after winning the Boxcino tournament and the Vera win it's a fight that will continue to build Golovkins status

Miguel Cotto-- doesn't want the fight now.
Sergio Martinez-- is in rehab and semi-retirement and odds are he does not fight again, let alone fight GGG.
Peter Quillin-- does not want the fight and is already engaged.
Daniel Jacobs-- has a fight coming up in April.
Hassan N’Dam-- has a fight coming up soon.
Jermain Taylor-- just a waste of time and may be side-lined again due to his own stupidity.
Marco Antonio Rubio-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Andy Lee-- would take the fight but already engaged.
Dmitry Chudinov-- just coming off of a loss to Eubank and really was not in play.
Sam Soliman-- still in rehab.
Felix Sturm-- engaged with a fight already.
Daniel Geale-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Martin Murray-- was just destroyed by GGG.
Billy Joe Saunders-- has not made a whimper since eaking out a win vs. Eubank.
David Lemieux-- already engaged with another fight.
Jermall Charlo- engaged with another fight.
Eubank Jr.- has just recently fought Chudinov, and could have been lined up but he obviously wants a rematch with Saunders and the winner of Lee/Quillin.
Patrick Nielson- does not want to fight outside of Finland. And if you are going to fight Nielson, then you may as well fight Johnson/Monroe Jr.

Sergio Mora- could have taken the GGG fight.

Willie Monroe Jr- could have taken this fight AND HAS taken this fight. But he and Tureano Johnson are almost identically ranked by the WBC and the WBA. So you could have had either, plus Johnson is signed with Roc Nation and has had more exposure and a tougher fight schedule than Monroe- Johnson having fought Stevens, most notably.

Tureano Johnson was also slated to be GGG's next opponent. But Monroe talked himself into it.

Also for those calling for GGG to move to 168, what's the guarantee the top guys there fight him? Ward is inactive and would need a tune up fight, Froch wants Chaves Jr, the Abraham/ Stieglitz - Sturm round robin will play out for a bit, Anthony is gfight Jack, Andre and DeGale look set to fight, Bika going to fight Stevenson, is Ramirez a better opponent than Monroe or Johnson

Instead of blaming Golovkin the finger should be pointed at Cotto at this stage and Martinez before that

Cotto is the villain in this drama, holding on to the title he won from a bicyclist/soccerplayer turned boxer(who started at welter). Miguel plays it safe and he loses the hard earned respect as the clock is ticking. If Cotto had any momentum, he has lost it and will surely be in a tough spot if he fights a middleweight next.
What we all want is GGG to become the true champion, because the division will die with a cherry-picking champion, just like some lower divisions have died because of Pac/May moving up and doing the same.
But in the meantime just enjoy GGG for what he does and the big drama shows he puts on. Be a fan and enjoy the moment with him so we can remeber them in the future, not nagging about him facing the cowards who are supposed to be stars. Otherwise we forget to appreciate what he delivers in his fights.

Monroe jr. is literally not going to know what hit him here. Good kid, but if Golovkin is compared to J.C Chavez..this will be his John Duplessis.

Originally Posted by smashup

Golovkin has stated many times he wants to fight a SMW but says he wants to unify the Middles beforehand. Cool, I stand corrected.

I just hope he gets the mega fights against the likes of Froch etc before he starts to age.
Agreed, it seems standard-when a young bull comes in, the best bull is almost past it.

If he wants Froch which I'm sure he does then that fight needs to happen in the next 12 months but money wise what does Golovkin bring to the table for Carl?
I can see Froch passing him up-at this stage Froch is looking for legacy or $$ not to prove he's tough. He's already proved it.

Fuck all unless he can at least scalp Cotto convincingly.

There's a big chance that Froch and Golovkin might just be ships in the night unfortunately which is neither a fault, just bad timing.
Oops, should have read this b4 I typed the above! We are in agreement.

That is one fight that true fight fans badly want to see 😉

If GGG is the man, then in a few years you don't think there is a bad mofo a weight class below that will move up? I do.

Hopefully Monroe Jr. gets paid well for this. He's on a nice little run as of late.

If GGG only fought twice a year..I'd have a problem with this matchup but since he fights 4 times a year...I'll cut him a bit of slack. Top names aren't exactly rushing to face him.

He desperately needs a big name opponent or unification by the end of this year.

Much prefer an active fighter over an inactive one, sitting about waiting for a payday. Eff that. Keep the momentum going, and from his perspective - if you don't fight you don't get paid.

GGG is a piece of crap. He doesn't want any big fights nobody is ducking him at all

Golovkins trainer wants Chavez Jnr, Froch and Ward


Golovkin’s Trainer Still Wants Chavez Jr., Froch, Ward - Boxing News

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

GGG is a piece of crap. He doesn't want any big fights nobody is ducking him at all

It's such a pity you are not actually fighting him.