Thread: Has Freddie Roach lost the plot?

Every single day , I'm hearing a different quote from him about Mayweather, his Dad, his Uncle, his gameplan,his pet rabbit , he's fucking obsessed! Everybody else involved are just getting on with it and you don't hear a thing. He ain't getting no reaction from anyone and is just continually ranting on! How is he gonna keep this horseshit up for the next 6 weeks? and is his focus right?

I think he's trying to play mind games but it isn't working because he's coming out with utter horse shite.

Looks desperate

I think he has a microphone under his nose everyday then he will say something silly. That is what is picked out.

Originally Posted by Master

I think he has a microphone under his nose everyday then he will say something silly. That is what is picked out.

Yeah I understand that, but everybody else has those microphones stuffed under their noses , and are saying nothing. I can only think it's a poor effort at mind games that is making him look desperate. not dissimilar to Oscar and his fuckin blueprint that he took out of the vault and gave to Canelo. And then when it came to fight night , Oscar's in rehab watching the fight in his best Summer Frock!

Thats just freddy. Manny doesn't talk as much so freddy compensates by over talking. Not to mention he knows Floyd gets easily mentally irked outside of the ring. From his reading, to his significant others , to whatever else he gets easily mentally taxed and insecure about himself, which is why he overspends to make himself feel better. Brian Kenny on Friday night fights used to do it all the time. He just loved pressing floyds buttons and floyd would start stammering and etc.

We all know floyds not coming to lose so as far as making him mad or whatever, its not going to make him any greater in the ring by inspiring him in any way. He's already deathly afraid of losing his 0 enough to spend 1000 dollars on all his meals ..so he's already got the inspiration he needs. So you pick at him..little by little and wear him down mentally, emotionally.... any little thing you can do to distress him... maybe he doesnt sleep so much or eat enough or even fight at a calm or emotionless pace. If you're up against a guy who doesn't make many mistakes, you force him too.

Floyd just keeps putting himself out there and giving freddy ammo.. Floyds always played the bad guy in his conferences, talking about other fighters and etc. So he's never really had to worry about anyone else being the aggressor. The funny thing is Floyd claims he has the mental edge because hes never been beaten before, but hes deathly afraid of losing his 0, pacquiao has pretty much stated what happens to him in the ring is the way god intended it and he's ok with that.

To put things in perspective. Lets look at the RJJ's fights against Tarver. Tarver, a southpaw, trained by Mcgirt (who had a hard on for jones and claimed he always knew how to and had a plan to beat him). Roy was drained the first time. Then came all the talk and taunting of Jones before the second fight. Is it an identical situation, no but it goes to show what an obsessed trainer and a guy who could carry out that plan could do in the right window of opportunity at a point in a guys career where he was ripe, even though he was viewed unbeatable. Talking got jones to come back down when he couldnt find someone at heavyweight ,instead of just retiring. So Freddy would put something like that out there and let it fester in floyd's mind. He's doesnt expect to destroy floyd with any of these things. Just create specs of doubt where floyd does the rest to himself.

That's the thing about an argument. All it takes is one person to say something small and stupid and its like a splinter dug into the raw nerves of a persons insecurities. Like when theres a fight on and you're sitting there ready to go for the last 30 minutes.. now its getting good and someone just got knocked down and your lady's finally ready to go .... Now you go "you're going like that?" and she goes "what?" and you go nothing "i just....if you're ok with it, then..." and she goes "wait, i'll be right out" and heads back into the bedroom. You bought yourself and extra 20 minutes to watch and shes in there changing her dress, hair, jewelry and shoes when there was nothing wrong with her to begin with. It's all mind games. Little effort for a potentially big pay off..

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Master

I think he has a microphone under his nose everyday then he will say something silly. That is what is picked out.

Yeah I understand that, but everybody else has those microphones stuffed under their noses , and are saying nothing. I can only think it's a poor effort at mind games that is making him look desperate. not dissimilar to Oscar and his fuckin blueprint that he took out of the vault and gave to Canelo. And then when it came to fight night , Oscar's in rehab watching the fight in his best Summer Frock!

hahah Oscar and that blueprint. I think he was drugged up when he made that blueprint because it hasn't worked for any fighter

To J-undisputed

Your point is logical if it is little educated comments that you know are effective. Freddie is carpet bombing hoping something hits. But if he does say the right thing because he has said so much the one good comment has lost value.

He's always saying crazy shit. Honestly, he should shut his mouth because he always ends up saying stupid shit.

For instance, take the DLH fight. Most people thought Manny was going to get killed, Manny pulls the big upset and hands DLH a beating. Instead of pumping his fighter up, saying "yeah we know DLH is a legend and it was going to be a tough fight but I was confident in my fighter's greatness", ect ect, he goes out and tells everyone that he saw that DLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore - that he was washed up - and that's why they took the fight. Why would you admit that?

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

He's always saying crazy shit. Honestly, he should shut his mouth because he always ends up saying stupid shit.

For instance, take the DLH fight. Most people thought Manny was going to get killed, Manny pulls the big upset and hands DLH a beating. Instead of pumping his fighter up, saying "yeah we know DLH is a legend and it was going to be a tough fight but I was confident in my fighter's greatness", ect ect, he goes out and tells everyone that he saw that DLH couldn't pull the trigger anymore - that he was washed up - and that's why they took the fight. Why would you admit that?

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..

Originally Posted by Master

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

Floyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."

Originally Posted by SlimTrae

I like the artircle where Roach tells Pac :God don't give a F@#*k who wins..

Did he throw in some anti-Semetic comments too?

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Originally Posted by Master

Floyd says stupid crap too. All this talk is BS when it comes to the fight night.

Floyd used to be in that boat to where he would call his opponents C-level and bums, but I think finally someone pointed out to him "ok... that means you beat a bum."

Floyd would probably argue they are A level against normal opponents but it is he that makes them C level.

Floyd makes great fighters look C-level because Floyd is the greatest of all.